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  • Something I've been wondering as I'm deciding on a chinese carbon wheelset (tubular vs clincher).

    Is it possible to get a supple tub that has decent puncture protection, or does putting in a stronger puncture protection belt, increasing rubber etc stop the tub from being supple in the first place ?
    If you do want a supple tyre, is it better to use 'open tubulars' with latex inners that are easier to sort when the inevitable puncture happens ? Especially if you can be 30-40miles away from home in the countryside ?

  • If you go the open tubular + latex inner route. Be sure to carry a butyl spare. Fitting a fragile latex inner by the side of the road is a little risky.

    If Your riding terrain/style/whatever tends to result in small point punctures. A tub is easier to fix With a can of pressurized sealant. I've also managed this With clinchers. But I believe the sealant functions better With tubs.

    I would personally much rather have a tub blow out at speed than a clincher.

    My training/mountain Wheels are alu tubulars With Vittoria Pave tubs (27mm rear, and 25mm front). They dont offer the sublime ride of a soft race tub. But they offer an amazing Level of robustness for their weight, and ride qualities. The New C+ tubs from Vittoria are meant to have the same Level of robustness of Paves, With the ride of Corsas. My riding bud has them and loves the ride/traction. Difficult to say if they are robust though.

  • Tubs > clincher. Not a strict tyre vs tyre comparison but the whole system.

    Get one with Latex inners. Inject sealant.

    Carry spare tub and/or Vittoria Pitstop. Also Uber.

    "If I could have a penny for every 'modern' wide rim getting clincher on trouble" etc.

    Just get tubs.

  • is it better to use 'open tubulars' with latex inners that are easier to sort when the inevitable puncture happens ? Especially if you can be 30-40miles away from home in the countryside ?

    Clinchers won't save you should they get a fatal defect. Should the flat not be too serious one can with tubulars use liquid latex or other sealant or even some fluid like water or milk and lowish pressure to ride them home. People have been known to fill their tyres with water just to continue on.. It does not work with clinchers. Small leaks you can ride with tubulars and just every once in awhile stop and add air. I would be quite worried riding a Chinese carbon wheelset with an almost flat clincher... Not great with tubulars but I've ridden totally flat tubulars for, while not 30-40 miles, 15 miles to get home. Its no fun on the front but luckly these defects are overwhelmingly on the rear.. Spare tubulars are also much easier to carry than a extra clincher tyre + inner-tube.

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