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Struggling to find a fair priced setup, that looks worth the money. I refuse to suggest paying over a grand for a bike that isn't even 105. Older models is totally okay.
What about the Canyon Endurace with the new Tiagra? it got a great geometry that'll fit your dad well (very high stack with a short reach), reasonably light, threaded bottom bracket, and a lots less than a grand (£700)
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Thanks, I've just been reading bits online, and it seems like Tiagra isn't a dirty word any more. But I guess it's difficult to take the groupset seriously, and I wonder if there's an option with 105?
I'll have a look at the Canyon Endurance now. I don't mind doing the legwork for bikes, but if/when I'll need to purée his food.......
pdlouche
Why are all the current mid-price offerings using Claris and Tiagra? I thought 105 was the bog standard?
Is 105 now too 'cool' for basic road frames?
Dad really needs a new training bike, the (old) 54cm Caad9 is killing his back, and the 56cm Specialized Roubaix (Ultegra + nice-wheel) setup is supposed to be dry/race only. Needs to be neutral geo, alu at a minimum, ie similar geo to the Roubaix or have lots of steerer for stacking, he can't ride aggressive geo any more.
Struggling to find a fair priced setup, that looks worth the money. I refuse to suggest paying over a grand for a bike that isn't even 105. Older models is totally okay.
Ideally new, rather than used, preferably 11 but 10 speed is more than fine. We could swap out the old setup, but the frame-only price needs to be worth me doing all the hard work.
He's a bit old school; he knows Cannondale, Specialized, Shimano. He doesn't like scary words like SRAM or DT SWISS (as I found out on the wheel search).