Which Groupset?

Bullshit: since when has Ultegra been mid-range?

It would make much more sense if they compare it to 105.

It would make much more sense...

But fewer dorrah.

This is the product of cocaine and £600 spectacles.

And pretentious beards referring to "gruppos" etc
can >>>>>>>>>

If they did that, they'd get laughed out of town: Ultegra money for 105 performance?

It's the 'Campagnolo Soul' Tax innit

Seems way off.

Campag have always had far too many groups.

I love my Di2. Its been so amazing to use, and just the absolute best bike component to live with. But even after a few seasons I miss dumping half the cassette in a single lever push. Modern SR is a sublime groupset.

Artisan tax

Tartisan Tax

12 speed. Its happening: http://www.bikerumor.com/2016/03/24/sram-eagle-12-speed-mountain-bike-groups-let-you-soar-far-and-wide-complete-tech-overview/

Are SRAM and Shimano 11 speed cassettes interchangeable? I need one for SRAM but don't need an 11 tooth sprocket so am thinking of getting a Shimano one instead.

yep. Even 11 sp campag.

Just brought some Rotor 3dF cranks and realised they come without chainrings, where is the best place to get some from price wise? and ones that will look decent enough?

Cheap and ok-ish Stronglite CT2.
Good Praxis.
Best Shimano ;)

Now I am concerned as I went SRAM Red with bike discount.

SRAM Red

wut?

The ones I got off Andy have Praxis rings which are black so suit the cranks. #csb

Picture please??

Don't have many pics. It's just a workhorse bike.

Same as the set I am selling here: http://www.lfgss.com/conversations/283823/newest/ (Which I had been using with my rotor 3d+) /SPAM

Would take the rings but need compact sizing.

This frustrates me a little...probably even thinner chain plates now, wearing out even faster! It doesn't quite suit ultra long distance riders who prefer 3x9 or 2/3x10 as the chains are thicker and are more durable.

I've seen review somewhere when shimano change to 10 speed their chain actually last longer.
If 11 speed doesn't do the same it's a shame.

That said most of the chain wear tool is not accurate that it suggest to change a good chain, yet when I check again with the shimano cn41 tool that same chain is still good.

Needs more computers.

yep. Even 11 sp campag.

Only by a tiny margin.

It work, but it's not 100% compatible.