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I had a bike with 10spd Ultratorque Veloce (before it got stolen), great groupset.
It's rubbish that they keep Ultratorque for Chorus upwards now, that Powertorque system is awful.Shimano are really good at trickle down from their high-end groupsets - the new Sora looks like Dura-Ace from a few years back. Campagnolo on the other hand seem to either trickle stuff up to their high-end groupsets, or purposely nerf the low/mid range to make their high end more attractive.
Campag should just go back to 10spd and Ultratorque. Everything else since has been wank.