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  • Yeah over 2-3 weeks, good sleep is totally worth a few hundred grams here or there.

    I don't know if you've considered it, but I've got one of those 450g Alpkit down duvets. It's super-cheap and super-small. I have trimmed and re-sewn a silk liner to slide over my inflatable pad, then just sleep under the duvet - it's like a regular bed at home. Tyvek groundsheet, cheap tarp.

    However with the groundsheet and tarp, it doesn't weigh much less/pack much smaller than my tarptent anyway (since it's two man and there's always two of us... and I don't use a groundsheet with my tarptent, living dangerously I know...)

    Also I find that polypropylene thermals are by far the warmest. I don't know if you've got room for a change of clothes but it's way nicer to sleep in a set of clean/sweat-free clothes than crusty, muddy, stinky ones.

    Have you considered the psychological aspect of a tent over a bivy? It takes a lot of practice to be comfortable sleeping in the open - it's fun with mates next to the embers of a campfire, not so much fun if you're knackered, lonely, hurting, filthy, the weather's shit. Your stuff rolls everywhere, small creatures investigate you all night, everything gets grubby, sandflies/midges/mozzies wake you up at dawn whether you like it or not... With a tent you've got a clean(ish) dry personal retreat, you can relax properly.

  • I didn't consider the duvets - I don't quite see the point compared to a normal bag?

    I'm pretty sure I had polypro thermals on when I thought I was going to die camping in Germany. Thinking about it now, I was pretty fresh off the boat and started the trip in UK summer so I probably just wasn't very acclimatised and possibly hadn't eaten or something. I was camping near water too which tends to be colder. I dunno, maybe I'm just pissweak?

    I'm used to bugs and crap from camping in Oz but I am thinking that the open-face Hunka might be less fun than a fully closeable bivvy option when it comes to mozzies and stuff that wants to nibble on your face at night. Buzzing bugs are a surefire way to keep peeps awake, though after 16hrs of riding maybe not?
    I doubt I'll use a tent though for speed reasons but a full bivvy might yet happen.

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