Lightweight tent recommendations?

I've spent many nights under canvas (or whatever my MacPac is made of), just none in a bivvy and since this is the tent thread... >>>

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Shuddup and find me cheap flights to/from America.

you could try BA world cargo and see if there's any courier spots (very rare nowadays)

Better do some back yard testing before you wanna take a train back the first night from Murka...

A critic is a man who knows the way but can't drive the car.

I for one have no experience with bivvy's. Would the Nemo Gogo Elite be categorised as a bivvy? I might be interested in obtaining one for my next hiking trip.

Shopping for my first "proper" tent - looking at Wild Country Zephyros 1 or 1 Lite, or Coshee 1.

I needs something for a couple of weeks in Japan in May where I'm trying to save a bit of weight on account of all the flipping mountains.

Those three all seem to be around the 1.3kg mark, but anything substantially lighter that I've been able to find is out of my price range.

Would love some advice on the above three, or any recommendations on something similar? The Zephyros 1 lite has the smallest pack size, but is heavier than the Coshee 1 so I need to balance that decision as I'd like to tour with only two panniers and a rando bag.

Might be a bit ambitious?

Have you looked at Montbell? Seeing as you'll be in Japan, maybe you could buy it out there and resell it before you leave, saving on luggage et cetera.

I haven't! But I will. I wanted to get something here so I can do a couple of trips beforehand to test the setup etc. I haven't really camped for about 16 years :/

I was also thinking about Tarptent, but their poles are really long and by the time I've paid import duty :(((((

Ah well, you would want to practise a little then.

can't find the sleeping mat thread...

who's got a small neo air? how do you deal with dangling legs when bikepacking or backpacking?

Worth asking in bikepacking thread too. I'm taller than my neo air but generally just let them dangle, it's not a huge drop.

Anyone have experience with these guys? Looks pretty decent!

http://www.trekkertent.com/home/home/3-stealth.html

@ tyeness. I have a Tarptent for sale actually. It's a Tarptent Moment DW. https://www.tarptent.com/momentdw.html I've used it all of 10 nights maybe. Super fast pitch, very light. I've got all the trimmings. Extra Cross Pole and the footprint. Would like to get 400 pounds for it. Tent is in Belgium at the moment but I could bring it with me to London coming Friday 11/3.

@ tyeness. I have a Tarptent for sale actually. It's a Tarptent Moment DW. https://www.tarptent.com/momentdw.html I've used it all of 10 nights maybe. Super fast pitch, very light. I've got all the trimmings. Extra Cross Pole and the footprint. Would like to get 400 pounds for it. Tent is in Belgium at the moment but I could bring it with me to London coming Friday 11/3.

How much!?

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Sorry, I meant...

HOW much!?!?!?

You could literally sleep in a motel every night of the RAAM for less. With breakfast.

(Pointless for 45mins sleep I realise)

I know what you meant, I was just messing with you.

"Light, cheap, tent - pick credit card"

Hey man, my apologies for missing this. That's a tad out of my budget, and as I was in a fairly nasty crash the other day I now need to spend my pennies on replacing all the damaged bike parts and torn clothing :(

Thanks very much for your offer, though, and good luck with your sale!

Nahhhh. I'm pretty skeptical about the airbeam being smaller/lighter than a pole. And I'd be worried about the 1500mm HH on the floor, pitching on a wet site it'll seep through.

If you want an actual tent there are ones at the same size/weight for much less (e.g. TarpTent ProTrail... and TarpTents are not usually the cheap option).

Or just go with a bivy bag and keep under natural shelter if it's raining.

I'm aiming for bivvy and some combo of full bag half bag and down jacket or even silk liner and bivvy. It really depends how cold I can handle sleeping in and from my experience years ago, that's not very cold. I'd rather be cosy and actually sleep than ditching a few hundred grams of kit. But this is stuff I need to test out still. I really have no idea re: bivvies or light weight tent options.

Yeah over 2-3 weeks, good sleep is totally worth a few hundred grams here or there.

I don't know if you've considered it, but I've got one of those 450g Alpkit down duvets. It's super-cheap and super-small. I have trimmed and re-sewn a silk liner to slide over my inflatable pad, then just sleep under the duvet - it's like a regular bed at home. Tyvek groundsheet, cheap tarp.

However with the groundsheet and tarp, it doesn't weigh much less/pack much smaller than my tarptent anyway (since it's two man and there's always two of us... and I don't use a groundsheet with my tarptent, living dangerously I know...)

Also I find that polypropylene thermals are by far the warmest. I don't know if you've got room for a change of clothes but it's way nicer to sleep in a set of clean/sweat-free clothes than crusty, muddy, stinky ones.

Have you considered the psychological aspect of a tent over a bivy? It takes a lot of practice to be comfortable sleeping in the open - it's fun with mates next to the embers of a campfire, not so much fun if you're knackered, lonely, hurting, filthy, the weather's shit. Your stuff rolls everywhere, small creatures investigate you all night, everything gets grubby, sandflies/midges/mozzies wake you up at dawn whether you like it or not... With a tent you've got a clean(ish) dry personal retreat, you can relax properly.