• I lived in London for the first 29 years of my life, I worked in an office, therefore I didn't need a car and went everywhere by bike or public transport. About the only time I was in a car was when being driven long miles to bike races.

    I live in a small shop-free village and work as a landscaper, therefore I need a 4WD truck to carry my tools and up to a ton or so of materials or I would be an unemployed landscaper. I provide employment to several people in a struggling rural community, they do not need to drive.

    There is no moral high ground, not all drivers are bad nor are all cyclists good. Consider the carbon footprint of the Tour de France......

  • Consider the carbon footprint of the Tour de France......

    Not sure that has much relevance to car vs bike as transport topic, but it's probably less than a single F1 weekend.

    Also, Bernie Ecclestone is clearly way more evil than Christian Prudhomme.

  • It's pretty obvious to me that one clear need for motor vehicles is people who need them for their trade. As you say it's very different to us office types who don't need to carry much to work with us.

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