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  • Separate question is "should I take this in order to be able to perform in a way that I could >not without it, even though it is not banned/illegal, or would taking that deliberate action >put me over a personal, ethical line?"

    Well, beetroot gives you a fairly large edge. So does hypoxic training, so does sleeping in an altitude tent, so does training at altitude. Not too many argue against those things. Grey.

  • Large edge? Data please.
    Anyway, food not drug.
    Hypoxic training is also responder dependant so may have no/little effect and is also not a drug nor does it involve transfusion or other blood manipulation.
    If you think training at altitude is potentially unethical, is training unethical?

  • Anyway, food not drug.

    So are hash brownies :-)

    There is no hard and fast dividing line between food and drugs

  • See, you've done that thing you do where you reply in bulk to everyone's posts and don't always take the time to read the content.
    My point is that there are many, many ways athletes look to find the edge over their rivals, some which are clearly legal even if they're a bit weird (many pints of beetroot juice every day), some which are rather complex and unnatural (hypoxic training) and others which start going way into the murky grey area, which may be legal but one would probably argue are against the morals of sport as we intend it to be. Until Jan this year (or jan last, if you want to look at when it was added to the monitoring list), melondonium was one of these things.

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