We are the music makers - producers?

Mehdular synths

#amiright?
#fartnoises
#expensivefartnoises

Depends, I think. Could offer a nominal fee and writing credit now. Who owns her recordings?

I like the idea of them and they seem to exist in respected producers studios but yeah, 99% of amateur stuff seems to be random noises. There's a modular facebook group that makes me laugh when someone posts up a video of completely unmusical loops of squelches and digital glitches and all the comments are leik OMG WOW SUCH CREATIVE SO MUSIC VERY MODULAR
WOW

Having said that, I did accidentally go to a modular night and it was good. Probably about £50k of equipment on a table though!

I've never understood the octatrack beyond 'its a fuck off sampler effects unit'. But I see he has two mutant drums which are usually drums and sometimes hi hats, so think overwhelming majority of drums/beats are from those and not the laptop.

It's tricky as, unless digital you can't store patches. Something I'm working on [machine drum beats + it controls a modular sequencer and a multi channel euclidean generator] has been plugged in for about three weeks until I either make up recall sheets or photos/detailed notes. To do a whole set on a modular would be hard work...I could perform it live but it would be have to be alongside vinyl/laptop based tracks.

I'd just like to know what the balance he's used is. There may be a thread on Muff Wiggler

EB
Mehdular synths

#amiright?
#fartnoises
#expensivefartnoises

I would say 95% of videos I see are absolute dross. I can't get over how much some spend to do "drones". But to blame the equipment is short sighted.

Did you not rate the second surgeon video?

It's all self produced/ funded. On the assumption I made something and it sold a single copy or more, what percentage do I say she gets? Would that percentage be variable based on how/how much was used i.e. If I take a small sample versus a reworking of one hers bits?

A producer who supplies beats would get 3-5% on a label contract - if she wants money she's better off with an upfront fee.

Fest' are you referring to what royalty to give her if anything she provides gets made into a commercially available track?

Live modular .....headaches unless your tangerine dream I reckon , the laptop is always a good backup of the tracks possibly already recorded in case of disaster ?

Depends on how much of the track contains her work . Vocals ie song 50% , sampled noises much less ! Offer here a buyout fee if you can afford but if it's a small project share of profits after costs usually. Drafted contract usually makes people feel better but nobody can afford a lawyer anyway . my experience of these being contracts are fucking worthless in the music business !

checked out the TR8 today not bad but feels a bit plastic compared to the old kit , am more into this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIrw1Bn0d1I

'sactly.

gios78 in reply to @MultiGrooves
Live modular .....headaches unless your tangerine dream I reckon , the laptop is always a good backup of the tracks possibly already recorded in case of disaster ?

Back up tunes, sure but the headache is a big part of the thrill...making it work.

Depends dunnit. You could offer them a flat fee to buy the rights to the stems off them. How much depends on how much work they put in, what level they're at etc. If it's an evening of recording maybe a couple of couple of hundred quid? You'd have to have the sign a contract to give you ownership of the results to make you free to do whatever.

Or you could offer them a writer's credit on the finished piece which you would have to register with PRS. they'd have to be registered too to recoup any royalties that would accrue and be collected by PRS. Depends on what you agree really.

Or you could do both. They might accept a lesser fee if they feel there's a good chance they might recoup later. I'd suggest you should always pay the musicians up front for their work though.

Nice!!!! one EB enjoyed listening and seeing the tweaking oh and the socks!

the socks?!

https://www.instagram.com/p/BC3TvaliVVN/
I'm doing this https://www.facebook.com/thepreservationroom2016/ in a week or two and it's given me a kick up the arse to finish some stuff! Need more jack leads though, apparently I only have 3!

nice! followed

a little remix I did for Berlin based producer Ornery

https://youtu.be/GZmNVWMhggA

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Took part in two live performance videos this week, one at each end of the scale!
Played drums in the big room and twiddled knobs in the small one - will post up the videos when they're finished.

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^^ jizz worthy!

I'm doing a three day thing at Real World in May - oof, check the big room

https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@51.4189047,-2.2525147,3a,75y,46.44h,88.86t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sC3xIKuyznQcAAAQulFXe5A!2e0!3e2!7i10000!8i5000

Cool 360! Console in the live room seems an unusual layout?

apparently its set up that way for collaboration