• best fast 4x4

    I've briefly had a Supercharged RR Sport and a Cayenne Turbo S*. The RR was smarter inside and much better looking, but the Porsche felt miles faster (turbo beats SC and NA in heavy cars every time) and it drove miles better.

    I'd just get an estate tho. There's only so much that can be done to make a 2.5 tonne 4x4 handle and stop.

    I still love the W211 E55 AMG. The last of the subtle AMGs, so long as you remove the wing badges.

    Is that too old? 500bhp and about 1800kg.

  • Is that too old? 500bhp and about 1800kg.

    Bit too old, yep. All the ones I can find (easily) are pretty leggy, apart from one where the owner is asking a rather ambitious £20k for it. And, for reasons I can't even start to explain, I'm just not a Merc chap.

  • And, for reasons I can't even start to explain, I'm just not a Merc chap.

    Fair enough.

    If you want a forced induction estate with 500bhp that isn't an Audi or Merc, I'm out of ideas.

    Unless you want a new 550i and a remap...

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