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there was no one more old and wise in the labour party than tony benn (RIP) and he wanted nothing to do with the eu . i am not against the EU and am open to the pros and cons but all you get on here is this guys a cunt , that guys a wanker , farage did this galloway did that etc . TTIP is a massive threat for example :
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/comment/what-is-ttip-and-six-reasons-why-the-answer-should-scare-you-9779688.html
^^ Because a load of Tory cunts, not old Labour wise men, will decide how the adventure pans out.