• frames without seat tubes can be made ridable and safe.>

    That's true for any tube on a frame*:
    No top tube - any step-through ladies bike
    No chain stays - Hotta
    No seat stays - Giant MCM
    No down tube or seat stays - Lotus
    No seat tube - Kestrel
    No seat tube or seat stays - Softride / Zipp
    No right fork leg - Cannondale Lefty

    *except the head tube perhaps?

  • If I'm buying a high price track frameset that would be used in a track environment (I know that we are at hhss) I wouldn't wan't just a ridable and safe frame, I would want something that performs to the (or better) level of money invested, that means that I wouldn't want a noodle when entering a 45 deg bank at 55km/h.

  • People buying Cherubim's aren't buying them for performance advantage. I doubt Konno built that for any reason bar his own amusement.

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