• hmmm wouldn't this cherubim have too much vertical movement without the seattube? paging @mdcc_tester

  • paging @mdcc_tester

    Losing the seat tube is fine as long as you make the remaining parts stiff enough. There are several reasons why it's a dumb idea, but frames without seat tubes can be made ridable and safe.

  • frames without seat tubes can be made ridable and safe.>

    That's true for any tube on a frame*:
    No top tube - any step-through ladies bike
    No chain stays - Hotta
    No seat stays - Giant MCM
    No down tube or seat stays - Lotus
    No seat tube - Kestrel
    No seat tube or seat stays - Softride / Zipp
    No right fork leg - Cannondale Lefty

    *except the head tube perhaps?

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