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no secret time, but I basically followed points 4 & 5 on this article and it's so far worked wonders. I was expecting it to take a week or two for them to settle in but it worked overnight.
I'm hoping it's not just a fluke.
I changed our cats feeding schedule and now they don't wake me up at 5am every day. It's been two days and they have slept right through and only woken up when I've got up.
So happy.