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  • Anyone fit their own Nest? The connection of the heating control to the boiler looks exiting.

  • I am so keeping that. And yes, it is. Lovely thing ain't it?

  • No but I looked at the wiring diagrams in the install guide. I'd be happy fitting it to a low voltage or opentherm boiler, not so much the other ones.

  • Has anyone any experience of diy-kitchens.com?

    http://www.diy-kitchens.com/

    The units come fully assembled so it's just a case of levelling and screwing to the wall right? How hard can that be...

  • I think @Señor_Bear used them?

  • The chap who installed our Hive didn't appear to have any degrees in rocket surgery so I reckon you'll be fine.

  • Not done it myself but did take a look at buying one.

    I think the wires and terminals follow a standard naming convention meaning you undo from current box and plug into the Nest in the same place and you're good to go.

  • Anyone ever tried to have their council tax band changed?

  • Yes I have one of their kitchens. Very happy with the quality and customer service. I didn't fit it myself, but yeah, as the cabinets come pre-assembled it's pretty straight forward.

  • Yes, have a look at my posts around 5539 on Home DIY

  • Cheers Trunkie. Yeah the quality looks spot on. Think I might give fitting it a go. I only wouldn't trust myself making any worktop cut. You only get one go at that. I don't think they do a design service do they? I might get something designed at B and Q and use that as 'inspiration'.

  • @Itisaboutthebike Yeah I'd fit my next one. They send out a pretty comprehensive fitting kit with your order. I had 2 doors that were damaged in transit and they couriered replacements to me next day (unfortunately one of the replacements was also damaged though! - but again that was replaced next day as well). The runners on our slide out bin became a bit lose so they sent out a replacement FOC for that as well.

    They don't offer a design service no. I did mine myself, but I'm a designer so...

    What units are you looking at?

  • Yeah I'm a design engineer. I plan on laying it all out in CAD etc, (sad)..!

    I just think that getting a kitchen designer to lay something out for you would be help loads as they have experience. They'd know where best to put different bits a bobs like appliances, sockets, lights, etc.

    Not sure which style I like. I like look of the high gloss handleless ones. Did you get any appliances through them too?

  • Yes, have a look at my posts around 5539 on Home DIY

    Interesting, I have a Worcester Bosch combi, am I right in thinking that I need to locate the boilers "call for heat" and "common", then wire them (along with power) into the heat link?

    There's no connection to my thermostat other than the 12v power.

  • Yeah I planned mine all out in illustrator, then laid it out in the kitchen space with masking tape, card etc to get spatial feel for it (shit designers say >>>>>>>>)

    We have remo gloss white handeless.

    They have some pretty good planning guides on their site which helped me with measurements etc. You can also spec any of the units to be dry assembled if you need so you can hack them up before fitting which is useful.

  • Haaa, yep, I'll be doing similar only on CAD, definitely getting the masking tape out too.

    I think that Remo gloss white was the one I was looking at too. I liked it in the grey also.

    Are the design guide the links with that scouse bloke Craig from Big Brother? I'll give them a read.

  • Ha yeah that's the fella!

  • The only connection I have from the heat link to boiler is the call for heat signal.

    Is your 12v power supply to the thermostat provided by the boiler? If so, this could be disconnected and connected to the heat link to provide the 5v power required by the nest.

  • Just a guess based on light switches but common usually refers to a switch line which in theory carries voltage between 2 way and intermediate switches. So common in this case could be used to wire up more than one nest or thermostatic device, allowing any one of the devices to call for heat.

    Which could be why Tango130 only has the call for heat signal wire.

  • yep. I called up the council and asked and got rejected. I really just wanted to check it was correct.
    I live in a cookie cutter house, so all houses on my rd are the same and everyone is at £X.

    Worth a shot.

  • The only connection I have from the heat link to boiler is the call for heat signal.

    Is your 12v power supply to the thermostat provided by the boiler? If so, this could be disconnected and connected to the heat link to provide the 5v power required by the nest.

    I have a Worcester Bosch 30 CDI, looking at the wiring template here: http://www.plumbcenter.co.uk/wcsstore7.00.417.75/ExtendedSitesCatalogAssetStore/images/products/AssetPush/DTP_AssetPushHighRes/std.lang.all/ti/on/Worcester_GstarCDi_Pt1_Installation.pdf

    Page 31 is the one of interest, and connector ST10 is the one to look at - it goes to the 230v thermostat and programmer.

    To my eye I need to connect that terminal block to the Heat Link, and then the Heat Link to the Nest 'stat, unless I plug that in elsewhere.

    What I'd like to do now is clarify what equates to what.

    On the Heat Link I have:

    -Live
    -Neutral

    I know what they are, but then we have:

    1. Satisfied
    2. Common
    3. Call for heat

    I think that that maps to/means:

    1. I don't know this one - any ideas?
    2. Live
    3. Switched Live

    Then on the ST10 I have:

    • Live
    • Neutral
    • Neutral Switched
    • Live Switched
    • Live Return

    Now we can take out the top two, it's the three below (NS, LS, LR) that I need.

    Live Switched to Call for Heat makes sense - but what about the Live Return and Neutral Switched?

    Finally, looking at the current Thermostat, it connects Live Switched to Live Return, which suggests that Live Return might map to Call for Heat, and the Live Switched to Common?

  • Thinking about it, if Tango130 wired "Call for heat" into "Live Return", and then just used the Live and Neutrals available that would agree with what I think I need to do.

  • And the answer is, yes - Call for heat goes to LR, Live to Live and Neutral to Neutral, and jumper Live to Common.

  • We have the same boiler, I'm very interested to see how this pans out! Except ours has a stupid wireless programmer thing snapped into the front of the panel which is total dogshit.

  • Did you get any appliances through them too?

    @Itisaboutthebike sorry I forgot to answer this. We got appliances through them but only fridge and freezer, everything else is siemens which they don't stock and that I sourced second hand but unused. We managed to time our order with a 10% off offer which included appliances so that's what swung it, otherwise their appliances don't seem that great value.

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