2016 bikes

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Am looking for a do most stuff frame with not short head tube, comfortable-ish but fast enough for chain ganging. Not fussed about mudguard eyelets. Looking to spend £200-£400 and could be second hand. Is the Cinelli Experience a bad idea, I've read it can take 28 tyres, which surely will sort out the comfort side of things. However, I hated the Kinesis Racelight I had, too uncomfortable. Any ideas?

too uncomfortable. Any ideas?

Lower tyre pressure.

#inbeforescoble

Bah. Had 25s on it, running at 90psi.
#25ismyths

Try wide rims, 28mm tyres and 60psi.

90psi.

u mad bro

4 real? Thought that was approved standard.
Anyway the Kinesis is sold, 28s didn't fit either.
Hence I'm looking for a replacement.

What about one of these? Can take 28mm + 'guards.

Or this if you want discs?

All joking aside I can't imagine there are many 2016 road frames out there that won't take 28mm tyres (if any in your budget).

Genuinely if you want more comfort, build a set of 23mm wide rims with some high quality 28mm tyres at a sensible psi.

Genesis have a lot of nice looking options at the moment, like this ... but I'd say go for something that fits, in a colour you like that puts a smile on your face.

Cheers, that is pretty close and hadn't considered, Campag too - unfortunately geometry is pretty aggressive, top tube a shade too long on the remaining size L, otherwise would have gone for it! Very good buy for someone.

Look awesome with no cable guide;

Until I realised they simply photoshopped it off;

classic

I'm about to replace an Experience, and whilst an excellent bike it's just too aggressive for my needs. Replacing with something more relaxed and steel.

Which brings me on to: always lusted after a Condor, and in light of my wanting something more relaxed and comfortable I'm now thinking Fratello disc on 28s. I know everyone says this but I can genuinely see that as being it for a while on the bike front.

Hahaha.

There is always another bike you'll want. Always.

Condor's geometry = LOL
Fratello disc is overpriced IMO.
Look at Bowman, Mason, Genesis etc.

Obviously for 'the foreseeable future' read 'about 5 years'

Expand on this, I'm still open minded about what to go for

Inconsistent (non-progressive) stack and reach. Its all over the place!
Not as on point as the rest. Flat mount, thru axle etc.
One of the 'put disc brakes on road bike' vs a disc brake road bike.

Stuck record but Genesis Datum.

Beyond my budget, not steel, NEXT!

£50 more than condor.

They have a steel one too: http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/road/frames/equilibrium-disc-725-frameset

https://bowman-cycles.com/product/foots-cray/
https://bowman-cycles.com/product/pilgrims/

https://masoncycles.cc/products/definition-frameset

I can do a Fratello build for 1400 FYI

You can do Datum in that budget too. 105 5800, spyres, aksium disc/OTP disc etc.

I thought about the disc fratello too but it is way overpriced when you start looking around at equivalents and I would personally like more tyre clearance. Shame cos I love condor's.