• I haven't gotten my bike from Burls yet, but the experience so far has been quite good as is the value: a bit less than Triton at least at base and the bikes are also made by experienced Ti welders in Russia. (Value could change a bit depending on whether Triton include certain options like canti studs or 44mm headtube, etc. in base).

    There is also XACD, these frames aren't much more than used Ti, but I'm not sure they'll last a lifetime. Custom v. used--it may come down to how unusual you want your bike to be. If you can find a standard model you like, it's difficult to justify the extra cash....

  • There is also XACD

    My 2p is they're a false economy. If you want to save money, buy a PX or an Allez. Ti is about enjoying your 40s and fulfilling your dreams.

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