• Box section stamped out frames

    No real need for that, it can be made in conventional tubes and is obviously easy to weld if car companies are interested. If it allowed mild steel to replace low alloy steels like 4130 in low cost fixie bieks and MTBs, I could see it being useful as a way to further cut costs, but in the high-end steel and Ti markets, people are buying jewellery, not performance, so I can't see Pegoretti or Moots taking it up even if it objectively outperforms what they are currently using on every measure.

  • Probably all true, people love to special. (Ti jewellery bikes etc.)

    Although when I mentioned stamped out box sections I probably should have elaborated. In my head I was thinking of fancy hydro-formed shapes with engineered flex/stiffness etc and different wall thickness at any given point. I'd assumed that's where the ductility comes into it?

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