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  • i wouldn't want to ride anything other than tempo in it, but for touring/commuting and general pootling it's the best fully waterproof jacket I've ever had both in terms of style and performance.

    Of course, if you're a fat sweaty monster at anything above walking speed you might struggle.

  • Yeah they're fine for rolling around in, but boiling hot if you put any effort in and they are very waterproof. Don't really see what they offer that a race cape, or a softshell doesn't though. Race cape will pack down (hardshell doesn't really) and is a bit more breathable. Softshell is loads more breathable, warm and has vents.

  • i bought a softshell in the black friday sale and sent it back, both because of sizing and also because (and I'm sorry to utter this yet again in this thread) for fast rides I'd much rather a gabba with arm warmers/gilet, and for cutting about town I'm not really wanting that ninja look that the softshell only comes in either.

    In other news I nearly bought the hideous coral brevet jersey in a fit of desperation as I really wanted the black one. If anyone has an unwanted one in large I'm yer man.

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