No-Fork project, bicycle geometry hacked

Brakeless and strapless too... Bike/setup clearly tested to the limit.

To get more stems...

MORE STEMS!!!!

Does there need to be a why?

Well we can't add more wheels, that would be a tricycle.

Think how many stems you could get on one of those babies.

Think how many stems you could get on one of those

Oh my.

Shirley?

(As long as when you see a bump you steer right, that is)

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Btw, without taking in consideration chainline, in this case what would be the best campering for the rear wheel? Aligned to the frame, aligned to the front wheel or even more campered than the front wheel?

epic dredge
what we need is a video of it being ridden please

9 hours is an epic dredge?

Probably the toughest question. I guess you could say it started with a quest for simplicity... It must be about 5 years ago I got fascinated with cardan drives. Build a couple of frames with cardan drive... and in a first part of the quest for more simplicity I build a frame in which the cardan side and the other side were symmetrical, which was very pleasing to the eye in a "naked" kind of way. I was very pleased with the frame, but couldnt find a matching front fork to match it.
So one day i came walking down the stairs and viewed the bike from a higher angle that way.... thats the moment I kind of imagined the head-tube continuing downwards in a straight line. Problem was of course the wheel was in the way :) And, being in a stubborn mood, i reasoned that the argument for requirement for the wheel to be in that place and the fork to be build around it, that same argument could also be reversed to a requirement that a tube needs to be in that place, and that the wheel should make place.... Then there was this (as it later turned out false) notion that the two wheels need to be upright and alligned, so I started tinkering with ideas like asymmetrical tires and stuff in an attempt to compensate for misalignment.... It was probably weeks later when I was at my parents garage that I had some time to kill and decided to weld a mock-up together, just to see how it looked. And it looked nice from the start! :) Took the bike outside to have a better look at it and then wondered what it would be like to ride it. Because the welding I did was just for having a look i doubted it would hold my weight, but I gave it a try. Question was would it hold my weight. It did.... but looking down on the wheel was a frightening sight, it looked like the wheel was half broken away and about to come off. Containing the fear I rode for a couple of hundred meters and the fear weaned off and it began to feel comfortable. As Im fond of riding no hands in a natural move I took my hands of the handlebar... and the bike just kept going straight... My surprise couldnt have been bigger at that moment... I was totally NOT expecting this!! This cant be happening... not if the laws of physics were chaged very quickly. My certain expectation was for the bike to drift off to one way and id have to grab the handlebar again. But none of this happened!!! The bike kept going perfectly straight!!! How could this be??? This was impossible!
Of course my interest was awakened, I needed to figure out what exactly was going on here. It must have been maybe 10 (No)forks I welded together to make another one perform the same way as the first one. The fact that the first one turned out so well was a matter of sheer luck, nothing else.
Your question "Why" is probably the hardest question for me to answer, but maybe the way it all came about sheds some light on it...

Here
is a video..
There's the Fanton video somewhere down in the thread..
Although this one I like better ;)
vimeo

Brake rotors with no brakes, love it.

Frankly you can just stick with that.

Find a way to incorporate coaster hubs then it'll be legal in Denmark.

Kudos to @No_Fork for giving this a go - though I have a knack for repping bad ideas ;)

Would it simplify any of the issues around pressure on the seat clamp (I think @edscoble brought this up a couple pages ago) to move the handlebars below the headtube, like this:

This pressure on the seat clamp is probably somewhat minor compared to the lateral forces issue, but I wonder whether a lo-pro geo (and smaller front wheel) would actually reduce some of those forces as well?

I'll be legal in Denmark.

When did the Danes see sense and ban you?

When they realised how much I praised cantilevers.

Fair enough.

I look forward to this idea being adopted by all the major manufacturers soon.

Would make no difference.
Scoble forgets that the rider weight goes directly through the steerer. The seat clamps carries only part of the weight of the frame distribution wich is significantly less than what it's designed for.

significantly less than what it's designed for

A seat clamp isn't, strictly speaking, designed to resist any load trying to slide it along a tube :-)

unsure why I havent come across this thread previously, but I really like quite like the blue one. v2? i dunno.. this latest adjustable thing looks quite scary though

I've not seen much that comes near this level of perfect simplicity in a while. Makes so much sense. As a human I have a hard time with the flagrant asymmetry, but once I abandon that sentiment the idea is palatable.

Also add more wheels! Be ambitious

Foffa's new bike ?