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I probably sweat more than the average cyclist, which is why I get on with the wetsuit 'warm and wet' Gabba, instead of the PTJ. It just irritates me that it's billed as a 'jacket for fast winter training' when it's actually pretty rubbish for anything tempo or above (it's probably fine for chugging along in z1/z2). The espresso jacket really is excellent though - warmer than the ptj and yet also cooler because of the vents.
As Dov says - horses for courses.
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Interesting. I had only used mine for chain gang training in slightly warmer weather before, and found it good. Yesterday was my first go with a base layer and I found it great at 'club pace' and on a (Strava) Cat 3, 15 min climb. I agree that it'd benefit from some vents, but apart from getting a bit cold when we were going at walking pace yesterday, it was ideal. Also find it a lot more breathable than my gabba, and not quite as 'cycling sex gimp', which makes me feel like a bit of a pratt on our very 'social' Sunday club runs.
In the wet I'll reach for the gabba, but for frosty mornings I reckon the PT Jacket is exactly what I'm looking for.