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I find them useless - cold when I'm cold at the start of the ride and the collar doesn't fit well or protect your neck from the wind, arms are too baggy. They aren't very breathable when working hard, no vents etc. I end up soaking wet with sweat and freezing cold every time - which is why I bought the Gabba in the first place.
I know it's warm for December, but I've also been wearing one of these recently (which is actually better insulated and warmer) without having the same problems:
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Interesting. I had only used mine for chain gang training in slightly warmer weather before, and found it good. Yesterday was my first go with a base layer and I found it great at 'club pace' and on a (Strava) Cat 3, 15 min climb. I agree that it'd benefit from some vents, but apart from getting a bit cold when we were going at walking pace yesterday, it was ideal. Also find it a lot more breathable than my gabba, and not quite as 'cycling sex gimp', which makes me feel like a bit of a pratt on our very 'social' Sunday club runs.
In the wet I'll reach for the gabba, but for frosty mornings I reckon the PT Jacket is exactly what I'm looking for.
dglshrn
How come?
I went out in my PT jacket for 70 miles today. Would have been perfect had we not had to spend the first 30 miles at <10 mph because the roads were ice rinks.
Once we got moving it was perfect (with LS base and a jersey).