Lightweight tent recommendations?

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  • Not just you! I think this is supposed to be the article but no mention of tents...

    http://indefinitelywild.gizmodo.com/a-gear-geeks-guide-to-ultralight-backpacking-1577128269

  • Sorry
    This is this one on video
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OItaTmTlTNE

  • Yup Crux guys and gal make some great proper mountain stuff.and a single skin breathable job that works. Loads of companies hitting on the same thing as same supplier in China everything gets passed around accounts after a few years

  • Tent nerds, got an opinion on this?

    http://www.nemoequipment.com/product/?p=Gogo+Elite

    Not sure if people actually use tents on TransAm but it looks feckin' small and light and perhaps a nicer option than sleeping in a SOL bivvy like Jesse did? Thoughts?

  • Waste of time. Literally, setting up a tent is a waste of time!

    If you want a good sleep, get a motel. If you want a nap, any bench will do.

  • Not enough weight saving over a lightweight tent (SMD lunar solo, trekkertent stealth), not much more room than a bivi... quite pricy too...

  • There didn't appear to be much to setup though and they can be inflated from inside.

    I just figured it would allow better sleep if I wanted to sleep out a storm or something.

    Still need to work out what temps I'll be dealing with. Depending on what this asthma diagnosis reveals, I might need to be warmer than other people just to breathe properly.

  • I guess you still have to stake it down.

    So, I should be looking at a bivvy instead? Jesse used a 100g SOL bivvy but again, I'm not sure how suitable that would be for me. I don't want to asphyxiate on the top of a mountain somewhere when I'm too tired to pedal over it.

  • Mike Hall raved about it for his 'round the world which is why I looked into it.

  • Remember what mike said, about his sleeping plan. You don't want to be outside if there is a storm. If it's raining, keep going. As you'll get cold if you stop. If it's cold you won't stop, because you'll get cold.

    Around the world =/= a 14 day race.

  • Yeah, I get it. Guess I was trying to be a bit careful with kit.

    I should really be out sleeping in a gutter somewhere to see what temps I can actually tolerate.

    I remember being in Germany in summer and freezing my arse off and that was summer, in a tent, with a thermarest, down bag and all my clothes on. God knows what altitude would be like trying to sleep at.

  • Why would you sleep at altitude out in the open. Get a motel or a petrol station toilet. Whatever.

    Being tired allows you to sleep anywhere.

  • He didn't take it for Tour Divide (Rab Ridgeraider, similar idea but still quite weighty) or Transam (pertex bivi) though... Obviously becoming more comfortable with less sleeping kit the more races...

    I'm not saying don't take it... you need to test stuff and see what works for you, then work out how to make it lighter...

    Always eat before you sleep too, helps keep you warm!

  • I don't know. 'Because I might have to' is the most likely reason.

  • Any idea which pertex bivvy? SOL do a breathable bivvy that's an ounce heavier than their emergency one. I'm not sure if that's more or less important than the heat reflectivity.

  • I have a rab Ascent bivi.

    It's very good. But doesn't pack down small and is heavy. Howver, you save time by just throwing it out and then getting in.

  • I have a Rab Ascent, eVent top, as @skinny said - quite big and bulky but loads of room inside + midge net... great all year round.

    Also have a Rab Survival Zone, the older version which is <300g, only use this for events and if the weather isn't supposed to be ultra shit...

    Think Mike is semi-sponsored by Rab so I'd guess he uses the newer Survival Zone or Survival Zone Lite

  • 650g, £80 on sale but yeah, that's twice the weight and more expensive than the Alpkit Hunka:
    https://www.alpkit.com/products/hunka

    Any idea how they compare?

    The SOL stuff is then half the weight again but is basically just a boil-in-the-bag foil wrap.

  • http://www.ultralightoutdoorgear.co.uk/equipment-c3/tents-shelters-c25/bivi-bags-c41/survival-zone-lite-ultralight-bivi-bag-p120

    The Survival Zone Lite weighs just 200 grams and beats the previous lightweight champion, its predecessor the regular Rab Survival Zone (320g).

    It packs down to the size of a cotton sleeping bag liner, not much larger than a tennis ball.

    The difference? The original Survival Zone bivy has a hydrostatic head of 10,000mm (i.e. properly waterproof) rather than 1,000mm for the Lite and feels a bit tougher. The Survival Zone weighs 320g and Survival Zone Lite weighs 200g.

  • So, +120g gets your a more durable and actually waterproof bivvy. Or, I could save loads of money and weight and just die of exposure on the side of a mountain in a SOL? :)

  • if it would stem the flow of ceaseless dumb questions, the latter, oh the latter..

  • Yeah alpkits a piece of shit.

    Weight isn't the be all. if you're going to take a bivvy, take one that is decent. You'd need the Hunka XL to fit in. Not much less weight. You want a zip up bivvy so you don't get eaten alive by midges or cold.

    I'd recommend mike halls quote again. 'It might not be the lightest, but it's not going to slow me down'. A few hundred grams on GOOD kit, is worth it. If you're buying kit trying to save weight, then just don't take it.

  • No tarp, no talk.

  • :P got an old wildcountry bivi, good and sturdy - ianaww

  • Neither am I, but if this bloke from Melbourne can do it in a feckin' space blanket and I already have more insulation built in than him...

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