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You referring to the lack of clutter?
It's called being tidy.

Or so I'm told, not my department.

Why is Pingu in the corner?

Nobody puts Pingu in the corner!

Do you have a colour photo?

Nested tables?

You can take the boy out of Derbyetc. And so on.

It's not called being tidy. It's called having no children.

Take that, you backwards little fanatical tinpot theocracy!

http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/nov/30/northern-ireland-law-on-abortion-ruled-as-incompatible-with-human-rights

75% of labour members are against bombing syria - labour MP's to be given a free vote. time to see which labour MP's are prepared to put their seats on the line.

some commenters are calling for a 3 line whip - surely this is incompatible with the concept of a free vote?

I think the difference is that for one of them justice is based on God's word while the other one is, um..

Even if only 25% of Labour MP's voted with Cameron it'd still go his way, I think. I just hope enough of them have learned something from the past 12 years.

they've learned that to graduate from politics to being non-exec directors then being conformist to the will of vested interests is the correct course

Where are the hysterical reports on divisions in the toryscum party? Or the endless media analysis of Cameron's fuckwitted arguments for engaging in endless war?

Go on, don't keep us hanging on. :)

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If I may...

Most polls in NI have indicated support for this since, oh, forever. Please don't confuse the fuckers in Stormont with the general population.

Religion is firmly to blame though.

And Westminster did a deal with the DUP to get detention with no trial they agreed to drop a debate on the fucked up NI abortion laws. Yep, Tories.

To hell with that warmonger Corbyn.

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Fuck me, he can't win, can he.

Tell me please, what proportion of this lovely liberal population go out and vote for DUP/SF/UUP at whatever chance they get. NI's problem is its people, stop absolving them of any responsibility for the democracy they deliver.

It's the same as saying the Iraq war was done because the UK's problem is its people. The general population didn't agree either.

Democracy is not perfect and Stormont is higly disfunctional, several court cases have been brought against lack of current guidelines for abortion, since 2010 no new ones have been brought and the previous AT rewrote very them very strict. With no mandate. Just cos the DUP assigned the health minister.

I wish people would stop voting for those groups yes, but here it's more complex. Despite court cases, media attention and protests the issue just gets ignored. (Bar by david ford)

Nobody voted for the fuckwittery lately either with the DUP throwing a wobbler over something we all know about.
The good Friday agreement ignores non sectarian parties which cannot start petitions to block laws (so called petition of concern, meant to protect minorities but used to walk over them by the DUP atm...) and did not set up opposition.

The new Stormont agreement also excludes opposition from parties with no elected officials excluding opposition until new elections at least. It leads to big vote apathy.

Though if people would stop voting green/orange, that'd be great. NI21 got a lot of hopes up but it self-imploded. Hopefully it can make a return. Alliance is too wishy washy, the Greens not for all, SDLP/UUP have become irrelevant, SWP well socialists aren't for all either.

The thing about NI is that after the Good Friday Agreement, the electorate abandoned moderation and flocked en masse to the extremists. It used to be that only raving lunatics on each side voted for the extremist parties (the political wing of the IRA and Rev Ian Paisley's personal anti-Catholic project, lest we forget), now they're the new normal. NI's voters refuse to vote along any other lines than sectarian (read bigoted). Norn Irishers have an amazing capacity for blaming others and not taking responsibility themselves.

I agree, yes, the orange/green voting IS a massive issue.
But it's not the new normal, if anything people are fed-up with it.

And that's where it gets problematic: Instead of people that don't like the orange/green crap starting to vote en-masse to at least stop the Petition of Concerns being abused/balance...they don't vote at all.

And that is a reaction you also see in England (a lot of people don't seem to vote as they feel there's no "perfect" party.) I disagree it's typical for Northern Ireland.

And I see this as well in the Republic of Ireland where people just don't vote, and I don't agree with it, but FF/FG are a pile of shit. It's another case of a 2 party system, and yes, people should vote and get up in arms. But, it's extremely hard to start your own party (I know people that have tried, needs lots of £££) and few are willing to go that far.

On top of that there's lots of nasty dealings we can't stop as voters, like that fuckery with the abortion guidelines. Which now suddenly will be released...but they can be worded in a very restrictive manner and again as voters we are powerless to block this.

More London looked like one big fag break earlier

Does anyone know of any good blogs/analysis on the Paris COP21 talks?