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  • "At the same time, Labour has retained only two-thirds of its own voters..."

    lol

  • From that Independent article

    "The result is that the Labour vote is now composed of staunch loyalists and recent converts; a base that holds positions on immigration, defence, welfare and patriotism which render the party unrepresentative and unelectable."

    What the fuck do you mean "unrepresentative"?! It is representative of the people you described. It is not the job of a single party, nor is it even possible for a single party, to be representative of the entire population.

    This is what pisses me off about the whole Corbyn situation: the approach of many Labour MPs appears to be "What's the point of having these policies/principles/approaches if you're not electable?", which is completely arse-about-face. The real question is "What's the point of being electable if you don't actually espouse Labour values and present a real alternative to (as in being noticeably different from) the Tories?" The only conclusion I can draw that I can draw is that a huge number of Labour MPs are just chancers who want to use the traditionally tribal nature of British politics to get power/stay in power to further their career.

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