Running

Don't think I'd trust a Garmin to make an emergency call for me.

and in a camera for selfies & 4g for live strava too.

Leading to the inevitable Social Media integration:-

"LOOK EVERYONE, I AM RUNNING RIGHT NOW, LOOK AT ME! ME! ME! ME! RUNNING! ME!"

(Glad I don't use FB)

Don't think I'd trust a Garmin to make an emergency call for me.

"Help. I'm lost. Somewhere. At 230km/h and -20,000 meters with a pulse of 500."

Thanks, Garmin.

I went out for a couple of hours just now. Took nothing. Didn't die.

I wonder if there are any stats for runners dying alone and cold down remote lanes because they didn't take a phone with them. It's probably statistically more important to wear a helmet.

Any thoughts on cold and wet trail shoes?

Been eyeing up Salomon Speedcross GTX because colourful and Goretex.

I really like my inov8 trailroc 235s.

And Inov8 Mudclaws

I didn't realise you chaps were into Cross-fit.

Saucony Peregrine for me. They're also fine for pavements and road too as I have to run at least 1km at the start/end of my runs from home before I can get onto softer ground.

In this kind of weather I gain about 10 places on each Wimbledon Common Parkrun lap by being able to run straight through the really boggy bits[1] (often under several inches of water) whilst others piss around trying to keep their trainers pristine.

1. https://flic.kr/p/rjf4BA (not me or my photo)
   

High five for awesome shoe choice.
Though they don't hold up to Peak District conditions.
Which is a shame because they are proper comfy to run in.

Peregrines are good. Went for Nike Wild Trails last and they're really nice, not a huge amount of grip though so its going to be a slippy winter on the trails.

@hefty Adidas Trail Response that I bought in 2004. Doubt there'd be any NOS pairs knocking about.

I occasionally look at other more modern trail shoes but reckon the gains (if any) defo wouldn't offset the cost.

@Greenbank Ditto about running straight through muddy stuff, I've seen folks in long spikes at xc mincing around the edge of the gloop they're equipped to cope with. #facepalm

Lots of options and they all look good. Thanks yo.

Any experience of them in snow? Or should I get waterproof socks and not worry about the shoe?

I've never bothered with waterproof anything. Your feet are going to get wet and cold.

Your feet are going to get wet and cold. I want mine warm and semi-dry.

None of the recommendations are really waterproof, though those Salomons will probably do the best job of keeping most of the water out.

The problem with trying to waterproof running shoes is that they have a big hole in the top where your foot goes in, and unless you're running on hard packed snow you're going to get wet feet at some point on a decent length run (or the first ankle deep puddle).

I'm another one for aiming for wet and warm.

You could try something like Asics Fuji Runnegade to keep debris stuff out but generally if you go running through wet stuff you'll get wet feet. Different socks may help keep your feet warmer once wet.

I can't imagine running in Sealskin socks or owt like that. Gaiters and goretex boots perhaps? Maybe one of the ultra/spine runners can advise as keeping feet drier for longer probably more of a concern.

Bought a set of sealskin's the other day which finish just below the knee. After the hell of the short versions, they're awesome. Warm and dry feet (other than the sweat).

And also, they're trail shoes. They're going to get holes in from rocks and that.

Just don't wash sealskinz it destroys the membrane then they die- merino is the way forward.

Mud Claws are the best

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SPIBelt. Works for me.

don't they have 0 cushioning, great if you are on soft ground 100% of the run but even a few miles on concrete or really hard packed trail and im not sure id be the happiest of people...

My normal 10k loop is a complete mudbath, I lost a shoe and ended up completely covered with mud. Great fun. Can't wait to do it again tomorrow.

I'm loving the muddy bits on Wimbledon Common, especially the bit round the back of Putney Vale Cemetery (except for the bastard hill).

10k into my first heavy week this week. 50k. Then a recovery week (back down at 30k)[1]. And HM commute in the week after.

Weight trending down, speeding up slowly.

1. Remembered why. Partly to give me a chance to recover after the big week before, but also because of a blood donation on the Tuesday. Monday rest, Tuesday train in and blood donation, Wednesday easy 5k, Thursday easy 11.5k commute, Friday rest, Sat parkrun (volunteer maybe and just jog there/back for 5k), Sun easy 10k.