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  • I think that there is a big difference between "recognise as a positive in the region" and "support by selling them fighter-bomber jets etc etc", and we're on the wrong side of that line.

    The Saudi's are horrific, medieval cunts who also happen to be a capable of a stable albeit despotic government.

    I wouldn't want to be Saudi and a) female b) gay c) given to speaking my mind, or any combination thereof, but as a Forrin I'd probably be fairly relaxed at having to go there for work for a few days.

    That's in marked contrast to having to pop over to Raqqa for a couple of days - I'd call in sick for that one.

  • Yes. There are definitely degrees of support.

    I also wonder if we've got to the stage where we've supported them for so long that we don't have much other choice.

    They've already created a tonne of sovereign wealth, established a successful extreme/orthodox islamist state and exported and consolidated an extreme religious doctrine globally. How do you actually roll that back now?

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