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name one tub that comes close to a marathon plus for example.
Why should one? I know of not a single 700g 25mm tubular tyre. At 600g for the tyre + another 100g for inner tube the Marathon plus is very hefty. If one considers the 50g extra one needs to design a clincher rim over a tubular, we are discussing as much as 1kg more rotating weight and significantly higher rolling resistance. More reliable? Depends.. Handling? Grip? Ride quality? I'm not familar with any tubular tyre that provides as poor grip and high rolling resistance.. I won't even talk about ride quality and handling since they are so highly subjective.. Reliability? Depends upon what is meant.. A Continental Comp Protection probably is at least a puncture resistant as the Marathon but weighs sub 300g, with excellent grip and rolling resistance. Comfort and handling too are generally considered worlds apart. And safety? You can ride a flat tubular. And.. lets not forget that the Marathon plus is a very tall tyre so there could be fitting problems..
Sure a Continental Competition tyre won't wear as long as a Marathon. A Conti 4 Seasons won't either.. But what is the point? The Marathon Plus is a fine tyre for what it is intended: treking bicycles.
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Because all clinchers are the same?
There are many more options among the clinchers on the market compared to tubs for reliability.
name one tub that comes close to a marathon plus for example.