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  • Seldom Killer - You should consider writing for the Spectator where your mish-mash of cliche, waffle and historical blindness would go down a treat.
    What are these mythical 'principles'? The ones that continue to deny the war crimes of Israel? The ones that support Saudi Arabia? Or any of the other despotic regimes that are, currently, as Syria once was, our friends? The principles that stopped the West intervening as the genocide in Rwanda was happening even though Clinton and other Western leaders were well aware of it? That led to the spokespeople of Western governments being banned from using the word genocide because that would oblige them to act?
    Or to go further back, what were the West's principles in Central America when they funded and armed terrorists who used methods every bit as gruesome as those used by ISIS? While the West protested about Czech dissidents being jailed the West was busy ensuring that the murderers, rapists and torturers in America's backyard could continue their slaughter.
    And before that there was Suharto murdering hundreds of thousands. And so on and so on.
    All of these Western backed terrorists and dictators had 'redefined' the enemy to include unarmed peasants, priests, journalists, trade unionists, students and the family members of the same. They all murdered and raped children.
    The notion that ISIS has invented a new standard of barbarity is so laughable, and such a self-serving Western lie, that it hardly merits a response.
    The principles you blithely talk about are a propaganda notion, for public use only. The West has, and continues to, support and prop-up any useful murderer until such time as they are no longer useful. Useful to Western power, that is, not to you and me.
    Only in the West could such a perverted version of reality be given any time at all.

  • That's a beautifully crafted straw man, all the more praise worthy because you contructed it while riding that mighty fine looking high horse.

    I'm aware of the multitude of failings of the combined governments of the West on foreign policies. I'm amazed you missed some of the other more prominent fuck ups off the list. Perhaps you'll forgive the personal attack there given you own choice of argument in the same vein.

    To clarify, because what seemed obvious now seems necessary, I didn't claim any collective governments had acted with principle, I argued that it was the only way we should proceed in this conflict. I argued it on a point that I believed to do so would result in the least loss of life.
    I didn't claim some new barbarity from ISIS. I argued the point that who we're engaged in conflict with and how they view us (the us they have chosen to define) is dictating the narrative of this conflict.
    I'm not painting a perverted picture of reality, I'm putting forth an opinion of how we should be acting. Oh, and I lied, your straw man is fucking terrible.

    And for the record, if The Spectator did offer me to write a column for them, I'd take it in a shot. Only for the unfettered access to the punchable Rod Liddle though. I have my flaws, you don't have to make up twattish nonsense about me to run me down.

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