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  • Another good point but you've just said more eloquently what I was perhaps trying to say - that sticking to our (globally speaking) principals will probably mean more death and that's the cost.

    It was naive of me to focus on the path of least destruction when that means essentially being evil in these circumstances.

  • Erm, I was arguing the opposite, that sticking to our principles means less death. At least that's my view on things. It probably means more death for anyone that we might identify as being part of some kind of "us" though. However, the trade off in this situation is that less people will be inclined to become part of "them" and thus we have to kill them.

    We will have to kill people though, even if it's only in self-defence. It's an absolute given.

  • Confusion! If there was no outside involvement, then wouldn't ISIS just carry on massacring in Syria and Iraq, thus more death, albeit not in Europe?

    I'm not getting into an us and them thing here, my original post started by basically acknowledging that the people involved are from everywhere and that we should focus on prevention and makig the world more inclusive.

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