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@jontea
@edscoble, agree with you on the surly comment. With the new additions Genesis have a strong stable of bikes to choose from, and I feel the geometries are better than Surly, they always feel too long in the reach, or sizing down requires a shit load of spacers up front, which isn't a massive issue, just aesthetically a taller headtube looks better. The Cdf you posted does look awesome, and as I always come back to with Genesis, colour, why just yellow for frameset?