I think your Saronni red one is even older (82?) as the headtube lug on the 83 (and later) models don't have the "dent".
well spotted "re dent" though, must be 84 then ;0)
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I think your Saronni red one is even older (82?) as the headtube lug on the 83 (and later) models don't have the "dent".