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  • There's a conspiracy against 'Boro. It started when we were forced to place our football club on the arsehole of England.

    Only Barrow AFC have it worse, but fuck them, horrible cunts.

  • What is it about Mourinho that makes his success collapse in bitter acrimony after about 3 years at any club? His ego? A fundamentally unbalanced personality? His management methods? Perhaps he should see a psychiatrist.

  • His whole approach is to create intensity and wring everything out of his players. Just leads to burnout after a couple of seasons - you can't maintain that.

  • And the players get bored with his negative defensive minded setup I imagine

  • jonathan wilson expounds on Bela Guttman's "the third season is fatal" philosophy, from way back in 2007..

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/jan/17/europeanfootball.sport1

  • So how did Ferguson do it? He made some unpopular decisions and still managed to get the best out of his teams (Keane, van Nistelrooy, Stam).

    Even Wenger seems better at this particular game, in the past at least.
    None of his so called key players have reached the level they reached at arsenal, even though most of them win plenty of trophies in the process (Overmars, Petit, Henry, Nasri, Clichy, Viera etc.)

  • Bullshit Mike.

    I can't be arsed to back this up with facts, but his first incarnation at Chelsea, his incarnation at Real, and his first half of his reincarnation last season (he's only been here for 14-15 right?), shows that his football is pretty much linear and focused on scoring. Not focused on ball retention.

    He's still an utter cunt.

  • @jaw Ferguson cut people when they needed to go. Terry should have finished last season. Unsure why Ivanovic has fallen off a cliff.
    Recruitment possibly didn't help.
    Getting into the Eva thing probably not ideal.

    Signing Cesc. That seems to be a shitter for most teams. See Barca.

  • @jaw @Chalfie
    I think generally Ferguson used a much larger squad than JM... He always had a second team of players who were happy to come off the bench, or be rotated and knew that's exactly what their role was. You could argue Mourinho did this reasonably successfully in his first stint at Chelsea, but since then his approach has become narrower in terms of personnel.

    Ferguson may have made some difficult choices, but he was always alienating one individual - making sure it never disrupted the team as a whole. Mourinho on the other hand, seems to slowly alienate himself.

    I guess you could say with Ferguson the approach was "no-one is bigger than the team" and with Mourinho it's "no-one is bigger than me"

  • Which is clearly a lie, as he's about my height.

  • It seems like he deliberately presses the self destruct button by orchestrating fall outs with players, staff, media and authorities. In the same way that Suarez bites people when he wants to move on. I reckon he gets bored then manufactures a firing to get a payout.

  • I think Ferguson, as Keane has pointed out, used the "no-one is bigger than the team" where team equalled Fergie.

  • A great read. Thanks for sharing that.

  • He's not. He's as tall as I am.

  • He's 5'8" apparently.

    Short arse in other words.

  • I fitted him for a suit during his first spell at Stamford Bridge and don't recall him being shorter than me.

  • I love Roy, but... Chevrons

  • LOL poor Clive, his rant has made it into my facebook feed from someone completely unconnected.
    Will he ever live this down?

    http://sabotagetimes.com/football/arsenal-and-liverpool-fans-will-love-this-chelsea-fan-losing-his-temper

  • We are going to win the league this season mate.

  • @cliveo can add 'internet sensation' to his LinkedIn profile now, and share it with his hundreds of close, personal friends.

  • I don't want this to be Clive. His daft defences of Chelsea's vileness always came across as just baiting towards other teams and his bigotry as being a bit ironic. And surely he'd be able to pronounce 'Mourinho'. It can't really be him.

  • If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=RDOaYlme22g#t=240

    And go to 5:38-ish and 5:53 for examples of Mourinho pronounciation.

  • Fuck me it just gets worse. That lot are like the illuminati

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