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Acliff in reply to @8bits

Would need to be -17 to be parallel to the ground and top tube.

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Pete4Eyes in reply to @Acliff

Not true. It depends on the head tube angle. It just happens that most have a head tube angle of about 73 degrees. 73 + 17 = 90 = parallel. A steep head tube at 80* degrees would need a -10 degree stem to be parallel to the ground.

*for example.

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