• That's not Jeremy. It's my friend Andy.

    buffsupwell made a funny. :)

    Probably for MH overall but not happy with its implementation ...

    I imagine he'll be aware that such nuances tend to get lost in a polarised debate.

    Very interesting figures cited for the alleged economic losses. They are almost certainly much too high, as the financial health of local businesses is usually not such that they could survive a 50-60% drop in business over a couple of weeks. If the figure was true, most of them would have had to close by now.

    That's not to not take the figure seriously, though; it clearly shows the scale of the alarm felt by some. It also raises the question whether, even if there were actually an increase in locally-centred economic activity, people would be able to acknowledge such a potential success.

    The Council do need to appeal to localism here; perhaps they're already doing this and it's just being lost in the noise. Perhaps the 'Mini-Holland' label makes it feel alien to some.

    This will continue to be interesting to follow.

  • Perhaps the 'Mini-Holland' label makes it feel alien to some.

    The Enfield lot tried to pre-empt that by renaming it to "Cycle Enfield" and now all the businesses are like "RAAAAAAH FUCKING BIEKS EVERYWHERE, CAN'T PARK, CAN'T EVEN CROSS THE ROAD ANYMORE".

    If it was named the "make public places nice scheme" they'd still be upset, tbh.

  • As I have said before, both my barber and cobbler claim there's been a huge loss in their takings

    They of course won't say how much -

    Oliver, the shopping economy in E10 and E17 has shifted to the N Circular or on Online. Though some of it hangs on in Selbourne Walk, which is similar to Dalston Cross .

    The growth in local retail is, I believe, largely in catering or small local and usually ethnic shops. There is a way to retain the local shopping economy and MH can and should be part of such a plan- but you have to move from the culture of shopping by car as the default.

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