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  • I'd say that's the entrenched view of a lot of people who lived through the 70s, where powerful unions helped to stagnate industry and services at a time of low investment and recession - and who also genuinely believe that Thatcher's way of dealing with them was the best for the country.

  • Sorry that was meant to follow on from my earlier post.

    But you're totally correct. I know for a lot of younger people it's hard for us not to look at the babyboomers as having all the breaks. But when you chat to them many remember interest rates of 20%, shit services, endemic corruption throughout public institutions or total incompetence.

    Even in very recent history you have plenty of egs of the public sector being totally dicked over by private contractors. Of course you can lay the blame at the door of unscrupulous contractors,but that gives weight to that POV.

    I think that's always going to be a massive hurdle for a left-wing labour party. I am not sure what the counter to that is.

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