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  • Also the point on the Tories getting into power without the majority of people voting for them isn't the fault of the Tories - it is the fault of the system. Labour got in in 2005 with an even lower percentage, but I doubt you were up in arms about the injustice of it all then!

    First, it sort of is their fault as they led the campaign (along with a number of people in Labour, it is worth noting) against electoral reform.

    Second, you're simply wrong in many cases about people on the left (including those who were members of the Labour party) not being troubled by the electoral system in 2005.

    Of course Labour has historically benefited from the system, but that doesn't mean many who are attached to the Labour movement haven't opposed it.

  • I totally agree and I would count myself as one of those on the left who isn't a fan of the system (then or now), but you have read a lot more into my post than I wrote. My point was in relation to one person who used the 2015 numbers as another (in my view very flawed) reason to bash the Tories. At no point did I say this is the view of the left as a whole.

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