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And I seem to have offended your pro-palestine bias
I don't have a pro anything bias in that geographical area. Possibly there is an anti-everything bias based on my non-religious position, but what I can say is that I do have an extremely strong bias towards good reasoning and that what your argument represented was a failure of that.
I'm not pro/anti Corbyn either, but I do respect the fact that he really does seem to not be dictating anything to the Labour party and whilst that means the debates are fierce those core principles being played out like that are really good to see. That is in fact the kind of politics I do want to exist, even though I'm not actively engaged in politics of any kind.
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It take it back then. Neither of us have a bias one way or the other over Israel / Palestine, good. I'm also glad you don't share my fears that the kinds of conflicts arising in the Labour party may lead to it's break up, I aspire to your optimism.
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I agree, I think where Jeremy is (still) sweeping all before him is in political style. The jury's still out as to whether that will resonate more widely, given hostile media etc. but I've found it refreshing right from the start of his campaign (no particularly strong party-political affiliation here, either).
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Oliver Schick
Yes. It is impossible not to offend someone on this issue, whatever you say, as Corbyn has just discovered.
And I seem to have offended your pro-palestine bias, despite saying I am NOT making a pro Israel point. The labour Party has built up support among the Jewish community, and there is quite an established Jewish presence in the party. Corbyn's position on the conflict is clearly different from what has gone before, how bad the fallout from this shift is will rest on how good a diplomat he is.
There are many groups of the Labour party who feel alienated by Corbyn. He talks alot about discussion, and all opinions being valid etc, which sounds good but we need to see it in action. I'm not upset, but I would be if the Labour party split over a combination of issues such as this.