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So, basically will get you audax points?

That's an interesting thought. Could I make TransAm a DIY GPS ride to get audax points?

Yes and I assume so... AUK have an affiliation with them http://www.aukweb.net/aboutauk/affil/

Until you shat bricks

Tracy Horsman used to offer a TransAM Perm, this was back in 2012 though and no mention on current list of perms - http://issuu.com/audax-uk/docs/2012-feb-arrivee/57 right page, 1st column, 3/4 way down

Yes you can, on the assumption that an amendment to the regs that has been unofficially adopted gets voted through at the AGM (sorry for being super nerdy and talking about rules!).

You used to be unable to ride a DIY using another 'organised event' as the basis for it, but there's a change in the wording that should get voted through that will allow this.

There's a phone number here, related to some Burmese cycle touring:
http://www.ibiblio.org/obl/reg.burma/archives/199605/msg00134.html

I read something about that in a recent Arrivee. It mentioned things like TransCon and Dunwich Dynamo which is probably what prompted me to think about TransAm as an audax point scorer.

On another audax topic, what's the points record? How many rides/miles are required to get it?

http://www.aukweb.net/results/fame/individuals/ this?

As above - 333 by Mike Lane last year.

(again, sorry for talking rules and regulations) Remember the 50% rule - it's not as simple ;) as going out and riding a 33400km DIY (or multiple DIYs to that distance).

For championships, 50% of your points need to be scored in calendar events.

I am struggling to find the actual wording on the 50% rule! Maybe it disappeared without me noticing.

So, the record is 33,300km and 50% of that was calendar events or just to 'win' it you need 50% calendar events? Are there even that many events to ride? I mean 50 weeks of 200s is only 10,000k so you'd need to be riding all the longest calendar events and fill up every other weekend with the longest rides available. So, a PBP year is the most likely year to do it because there's more long events on, right?

The guy's Strava heatmap thing: https://www.strava.com/athletes/4628735/heatmaps/6ed5ab12#7/52.90652/-0.69244

In theory, maybe depending on where you live, you could probably do 2 official 200s every weekend and a midweek DIY/Perm 200 would set you up for 30k km as a reasonable base, mix in a few longer events during the summer and it sounds almost-achievable (haha!)...

Yeah, I think I'd rather aim to win TransAm than mess about entering a million audaxes.

I am just trying to find a reference to the 50% rule. I am certain it still exists for the purposes of the distance (points) championships. It used to be in the handbook - but the handbook no longer exists.

I think it is about removing the chances of someone just bashing out loads of DIYs and raising suspicion that they are not actually doing them (i.e. there's no visibility).

It does of course mean that someone based in northern scotland is going to have a tough time getting to events and so on to mount a credible campaign.

Looking at Mike's 2014 results, it shows 333 points with 180 being in perms, which means that 'only' 306 points count for the actual championship.

Confused? Me too!

Basically Mike would ride 1 or 2 200km events every weekend through the winter months and then a 300 and a 200 event as spring comes, before doing a 600km event every weekend in summer. And then he would ride 2 or 3 200km DIYs during the week.

It is amazing in it's own way, his story is quite something too (mown down by a coach, huge brain injuries, smashed up hips and legs, in a wheelchair for months - his brain injuries mean he has all sorts of challenges and cycling a lot seems to keep them under control). He's a funny chap and rubs people up the wrong way sometimes - he lacks empathy or self control, so can sometimes come across as a total bragger, but he can't help it, his brain doesn't work like the rest of us! I've spent a couple of years thinking he was a bit of a tosser, but then I have ridden with him and chatted to him more over the last year or so, and he's a decent bloke. I spent some good times with him on PBP drinking coffee in the sunshine and watching the world go by.

Anyway - TransAm as a DIY would be the longest DIY by some margin. A chap called Marcus (good name) rode a 3500km DIY around the UK a few years ago.

Tracy is a he and lives in the US apparently. I'm not sure I want to add extra hassle to my TransAm but what would be involved in DIYing it? I recall I'd need to make checkpoints that meet the AUK requirements (every 80-100k?) but I can DIY by GPS right? So I'd not need to do the receipt collection thing I'd just have to show the route and checkpoints and have it validated. Oh, would I need to make a routesheet with all those turns written on it? I'd hope not for a GPS ride. Why am I even thinking about this? What's the point, other than getting a bunch of points for Willesden?

Sorry to hear this Kid

The borked mudguard that is...

Cheers fella, need to get it suited and booted again asap

I am just trying to find a reference to the 50% rule. I am certain it still exists for the purposes of the distance (points) championships. It used to be in the handbook - but the handbook no longer exists.

"Appendix 13.1.1: For individual points trophies listed under Appendix 13.2.8, the number of points gained from permanent events must not exceed the number of points gained in calendar events."

(We'll gloss over the fact that renumbering means the trophies are no longer actually listed under App 13.2.8 ...)

I think it is about removing the chances of someone just bashing out loads of DIYs and raising suspicion that they are not actually doing them (i.e. there's no visibility).

Trains was the suspicion, I believe.

At least if you've been seen on a shit-load of calendar events, people know you've done a lot of riding.

Basically Mike would ride 1 or 2 200km events every weekend through the winter months and then a 300 and a 200 event as spring comes, before doing a 600km event every weekend in summer. And then he would ride 2 or 3 200km DIYs during the week.

I think his habit was to ride a DIY 200 to most calendar events he did, and then a DIY 200 home again.

(@hippy)

I'm not sure I want to add extra hassle to my TransAm but what would be involved in DIYing it? I recall I'd need to make checkpoints that meet the AUK requirements (every 80-100k?) but I can DIY by GPS right? So I'd not need to do the receipt collection thing I'd just have to show the route and checkpoints and have it validated.

Either plan a route with checkpoints every $reasonableno of km (and then dick around providing a sensible min distance between them, because GoogleMaps isn't working like it used to), or, assuming yet another Roolz amendment gets passed at the AGM, submit a GPX beforehand and then ride it.

This is simpler, but has the disadvantage of confining you to the pre-planned route (obviously you can go foraging in towns, but you might need to provide some proof of the need for diversions if there was a road closure, and you couldn't just decide on a whim that you preferred to go over a mountain rather than round it). Folk would rather validate than not, but you'd lose the freedom to just pick a route between controls on the fly.

What's the point, other than getting a bunch of points for Willesden?

There is that ...

A group of us from Audax Club Bristol did the Borders and Castles as a DIY yesterday, Mike Lane included. The 2 points brings him up to 222 points for the season and what looks like another championship. Our very own Andy Curran has amassed 264 points (maybe 268 because he did a 400 DIY yesterday) this season but won't win the championship due to the 50% rule.

To put it in perspective I've cycled 200, 300, 400, 500, 600 and 700 events this year plus PBP and I'm only on 48 points scrathing around for another 2 before Thursday and the start of the new season to get to that magic 50.

I think riding 100 miles let alone 200km is an amazing achievement. What these guys do is mind blowing. And don't get me started on Steve Abraham.

That is just numbers. But do say Hallo Gallo to this club mate of yours please.

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Haha that's Rob. He had a speaker in his bag on PBP and played Highway to Hell as about 20 of us rolled from Mortange to Druex at midnight. One of the highlights of PBP for me. No problem I'll say Hallo Gallo for you.

One of my highlights as well rolling with you guys, as that is Rob at Dreux. You were the guy on the fixed I assume ;-)