Road Wheels & Road Wheel Recommendations?

I thought the question was:

"I've bought cheap, light wheels. Where are my equivalent skewers?"

#overthinking

Don't use the ti/crab skewers. Even I'll admit now they're death, and I ran them for three years because they were so very pretty.

Unrelated - does anyone want to buy a pair of ti skewers?

I also have some for sells. Currently sat in a box, light coating of dust free to new owner.

Price?

They'll cost you multiple trips to various mechanics as they try to sort out a creaky BB.

Mine have been fine for the last 6 years...

Am I doing it wrong?

If I can find them they're yours, let me have a rummage.

Yes, you are clearly not fat enough.

I have those skewers too and have had no trouble with them. Wouldn't mind another pair if they are going...

Yes, you are clearly not fat enough.

Shit - Do I need a bike fit too!?

If I wanted to build up some HED Ardennes / Belgium Plus rims onto some decent hubs, are DA 9000 a good option? They're a bit heavier than CK, but seem easier to service, have the Ti freehub body, and are much cheaper. Would be 32 / 28 as I'm quite heavy. Any idea what length CX Ray spokes I'd need too? And the cheapest place to get 60 of them in silver?

Other option would be Shamals, which would be cheaper and lighter, but don't have the wide rim profile and I guess wouldn't be as easy to true / service.

My Ardennes never needed truing but you are right on the CK: unable to service them myself the cost of ridding them of the chain slack on the 50-12 13 14 might be that of a new hub.

My do everything wheels are built on 9000's and they've been flawless. I used them as these wheels do heavy miles in all weather and the hubs are well sealed and easy to service and adjust.

I can't help on the spokes though.

Great, thanks. The rear CK is just so expensive. I like the idea of the tougher Ti freehub body too, after making a mess of a Hope one.

Will the HED Belgium Plus with a 25mm Open Pave CG fit ok in a SuperSix Evo frame? Will the tyre measure 25mm or wider?

HED Ardennes...DA 9000...CX Ray

There should be a jewellery thread for things like this. You're dropping a pile of cash on something which is going to be no better than a pair of DT R24s. Well, more to the point, nearly four pairs of R24s, so any durability claims about more spokes and Shimano hubs had better be pretty strong :-)

Good price and wide, but 1790g and not sure 20 / 24 will be ok for 100kg. Looking to upgrade the stock Aksium S wheels, which are about that weight. I like the look of the Zondas (1550g) / Shamals (1425g), which are meant to be fine for heavier riders, but considering hand built too. Also not a big WW, but wanted to try and hit 7kg with this new build, and with 6800 rather than Force the weight savings need to come from elsewhere (me included).

1790g

Actually 1800g without rim tape. The R23 just about achieves £1/g for weight weenies by being twice the price but somewhere between 150 and 200g lighter.

not sure 20 / 24 will be ok for 100kg

My old Shimano RS80s are fine, 16/20 thinner spokes than the DTs. I haven't done enough on the R24s to say categorically that they're fine, but they have 4 more spokes each end, which are thicker, so I've had no hesitation in launching off the tarmac with them.

Zondas (1550g) / Shamals (1425g)

Remember, those are on Italian scales, add 5% to convert to SI units :-) Avoid anything with aluminium spokes, they are a terrible idea.

Thanks for the info. I'll swap the parts I have over when the bike arrives and then give some more thought to the wheels. I do like the Belgiums, but £££.

You don't need posh rims. Kinlins are fine.

DA hubs are very nice and with them comes the option of using your favourite builder. 28 / 32 spokes will be easier to keep true and functionaly even tension than lower counts.

I'd probably save cx-rays for 'fast' wheels.

Unlike rims, high quality hubs can last wins if serviced regularly and used with correct cassette.

I serviced Shimano hubs regularly at work, they're wonderfully easy to fine tune with no drag (providing it didn't get pitted).

Only issues is the titanium freehubs body can be prone to sprocket cutting away (not a problem per se), unless you use expensive cassette with alu carrier.

Personally, Ultegra is my choice due to steel freehubs body.

DA 24/28h with cx-ray and deep rims would be a nice and fast wheelset all good for the heavier rider.

Someone on Ebay has a load of Shimano OEM 18/24 drilled Ultegra 6700 hubs @£50/pair for fellow 10 speed luddites who want to mess with some Chinese crabon deepness

I do. Don't know why, just do. This would be nice. Silver spokes instead though:

Just to make sure: The Belgium Plus rim, at 25mm wide, with a 25mm tyre (made bigger by the wide rim? 27mm?) will fit a SuperSix Evo frame?

25mm tyre (made bigger by the wide rim? 27mm?) will fit a SuperSix Evo frame?

More likely to fit with wide rims than otherwise, as the limit on the SS-Evo (and other bikes) tends to be with the tyre height behind the RD clamp and/or under the fork crown. Widening the tyre on a big rim tends to lower the height. People fit 28s to SS-Evos, so 25s should be fine for both width and height.