Power Meters / Powermeters (SRM, Powertap, Quarq, Ergomo, Vector, Stages, power2max, P2M, 4iii, InPower, Cinch)

TT forum is the biggest pile of shit talkers I've ever seen. It's worse than the comments section on the daily mail.

https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?51289-Summary-of-Vector-Questions

Spider, wiring, sensors, USB to serial and PCV + charger only, errrm, £300?

With cranks a bit more? Let me know if I'm off.

Ah, didn't see the bit about Cannondale.

Fits any BB30 / PF30 BB :)

How much should I ask for it, spider and gubbins only? Works perfectly, good nick.

I've barely moved on from square taper, let alone reached XX30. £300 sounds about right, I think the square taper version (with cranks) normally crop up for about £400 on the TT forum.

If this were around November time then I'd almost certainly be interested.

Bear in mind that he's selling because they don't fit a T3. If you're thinking of putting them in a Cervelo, you need to take measurements. Given how much interference there was in the T3, I'd be a bit surprised if the extra 10mm OLN in an old-school P2/3 was enough to make them clear safely.

Yeah that's a point. I know Xav had issues with Raltecs in his P2.

Ah, ok. In that case I'll hold out until I have a better idea of how the build will take shape. Cheers.

i-Ride are now selling the Pioneer powermeter (I noticed, a few days after ordering one from the US of A).

That said, the upgrade kit in the US is £650, here in the UK it's a far more reasonable £1,099.

Of course, that's explained away by the 20% VAT which would make the UK cost £780. Oh, wait.

cheap here: https://www.powermeter24.com/uk/pioneer/pioneer-cyclo-power-meter-upgrade-kit-ultegra-6800

Also what are the thoughts on this? https://www.powermeter24.com/uk/pioneer/pioneer-cyclo-power-meter-left-crank-arm-ultegra-6800

I know P2M can be had for similar money but single side would be easier to switch between bikes.

If you've already taken the crank arm off, not really much more hassle to switch the DS as well.

True, I am not in the market I was just wondering is there a worthy competitor to Stages that is accurate and reliable.

The two sided upgrade kit is a steal IMO.

It still works by just doubling your power though, so has the same limitations as stages.

If I'd known about that on Powermeter.24 I'd have gone that route. It's mega cheap.

God-damn.

Is the upgrade kit on powermeter24 singleside only or L/R? The website seems a bit short on details, and about where it has to go for fitting.

If it's single sided I feel better about things.

upgrade kit = both sides

upgrade kit = both sides

I though the upgrade kit added the second crank when you already had the single-sided thing. On the shop page it says "Kurbelarme und Kettenblätter sind nicht im Lieferumfang enthalten !", which google (and even a basic understanding of European languages) translates to "Crank arms and chainrings are not included !"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_TZXYQpB3Y

My threshold HR would appear to be a lot lower than I thought it was.

I presume you're being sarcastic?

Because whatever that strava test is, it's not telling anything, becasue you're riding way below what your threshold it.

I don't know why it says Lactate Threshold either. That's a total misappropriation of the official term.

That's the output of a BSX Insight structured test, using this: https://www.bsxinsight.com/cycling

I created a workout in Trainer Road and then used that in erg mode to control my turbo, 3 mins at 100 watts, 3 mins at 120 etc etc.

Oh so you've that monitor. That makes more sense.

I'm still not sure what that ram test does tell you. And nothing related to threshold HR.

I like the british cycling MAP test.

Any published studies of those compared with a real blood test at the same time?

As far as I understand it this is all about lactate threshold, which defines the zones - a lot of posts from new users have said that they think it rather underestimates threshold power, and I guess that that would have a knock-on effect on threshold HR.

I invested in the Kickstarter for this last year, never got round to using it until today.

I'm going to use it's figure for my FTP, see if I can get that figure up a little over the next four weeks before testing again (which will be just after I get back from ten days at altitude in Colorado).