Road bike recommendations

Correct pressure motherfucker!

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My shallow alu tubular wheelset with 27/25mm tubs fitted. Just isn't as smooth as my 88/60mm deep crabon tubular wheelset with 25/22mm tubs fitted.

The lower pressure tyres absorb more of the real hits, granted. But the background buzz is smoothed out amazingly, on the carbon wheels. Seem to hold true verses 38mm crabon rims from the same manufacturer.

I wonder whether it's the increased amount of thin sidewall.

I get the same feeling from the aero frame. Which also has massive flatten tubes with thin sidewalls. Smooth but unforgiving on bigger bumps.

I've tested the wheels back to back. It's definitely a thing.

The frame thing could definitely be imagination.

If you're not all about going fast then go with what you like and think works and enjoy yourself. After doing this for a long time, my criteria for my personal bike is based almost entirely on paint and people behind the company who made it, everything else is components and tire pressure.

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My shallow alu tubular wheelset with 27/25mm tubs fitted. Just isn't as smooth as my 88/60mm deep crabon tubular wheelset with 25/22mm tubs fitted.

Did you not read the article? You need to ride them back to back with a blind fold on.

Let us know how the ride goes ;)

I'll do few descents.

They actually have the same spokes and spoke count. Nearly the same exact spoke patterns too.

Both are nice wheelsets. It's just bit interesting.

Well, to me.

^^ lol.

my personal bike is based almost entirely on paint and people behind the company who made it, everything else is components and tire pressure.

I can't remember writing that article.

It's well written, Ed. Definitely not your work.

Proper LOL ed.

You more than anyone pushes frame/fork geometry which is a function of frame design surely ;)

It's just bit interesting.

debatable ;)

What stores normally have the good discounts on the 'big' brands last season models?

^ Interested in knowing this too. I'm ready to pull the trigger and want the best bang I can get for my buck*

• Up to 2 grand
  

I'd suggest know what bike it is that you want, then look for it.

It's too easy to be tempted into something because it's a bargain, despite the fact it does not fit or actually meet your requirements.

I had my eye on a particular Cannondale, because of its spec and that it had a simple colourscheme (black and white - soooooo fucking racist). I knew what size I wanted and then watched its price descend and got myself a relative bargain.

^ I saw that answer coming, which is why I came back to edit my post :-)

I had my eye on a particular Cannondale too - the Supersix evo Red, but its out of my budget. So, my heart wants to go for the next best thing, the Racing Edition with Sram Force 22. It can be had for about 1500 notes but a couple of things are bothering me about it, like the fact that it doesn't come with an Arione and it has an alloy seatpost wheras the Ultegra model that cost 100 quid more did. Said Ultegra model seems to have sold out everywhere now, which is a shame cos I would have happily gone for that one even though it was green. Like you, I watched the price descent, sat on it and now its out of stock in my size :(

So yeah, heart loves the grey/red Evo but my head is wondering if I can get a better spec if I consider others*

• The Raleigh Militis race is fantastically priced at £1695 with Force 22, but fuck me: yellow and black?
  
  

(EDITED: I stated the Militis had Ultegra, not Force)

i only posted because i am a terrible bargain shopper, buying shit i don't need 'cos its cheap

Racing is £1349 and Ultegra £1299. For the frame and spec I think they're both excellent. Saddle and seatpost are an easy sell and swap. I have a carbon C2 seatpost for sale if you want, off the Ultegra model. Which size frame?

There is another article that puts real numbers on the contribution from each "spring" in the system; saddle flex, seatpost, frame, wheels and tyres for comfort.

Tyre pressure really is the only one that matters.

50cm

I know the saddle/seatpost thing is being dead picky, but its one of those things where a voice inside my head says "well, if you spend 100 quid more on this one its got this and this and this..." The Arione thing is only because its my saddle.

I've always loved the supersix frames, and ever since I've toyed with buying a new bike I never thought I'd consider anything else. Grouppo wise I'm not fussed, I've only ever used Campag (and Mirage at that) and bearing in mind how clunky my gears are at the moment anything is an improvement. My only affinity to Sram is I like the shape of the hoods.

I kind of miss SRAM Red / Force, but hated the front mech set-up and downshift. Lighter than Ultegra though.

Get whichever you can find in your size I guess and then sell and replace the parts you don't want. Easy enough. That's what I've been doing with the SSE Ultegra. The green is fun, and a nice change from all-black-everything.

I think I'm going to bike the bullet on the Force Supersix.

Do it. Let me know if you want the carbon C2 post if that one is alu.

For that money you can get 6.55kg.

http://www.rosebikes.co.uk/bike/rose-x-lite-crs-4400/aid:754024#3H-15vFq-15vFr-15vFs-15vFt-15vFx-15vFy-15vFz-15vG0-15vG1-15vG2-15vG3-15vG4-15vKr-15vG7-15vG8-15vG9-15vGA-15vGD-15vGE-17gMH-1FgfK-1FgfL-2wgmE

R23 wheels. And £82 gets you Red brifters which I hear are a bit more agile.

25 Schwalbe One tubeless.

2k gets you Di2.