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  • Hello - would like a recommendation that has nothing to do with £4k budgets or aeros. My dad's looking for a new road bike that he can do some touring on. Basically, I think he wants something between the Genesis Equilibrium and the Croix de Fer: i.e. good quality steel, rim brakes but with necessary braze-ons and mounting points for guards and racks. Looking for something light and fun enough to enjoy riding unloaded, but that will be sturdy enough to tour on. Something with a bit more craft and quality - and less weight - than Kaffenback/Surly etc but we're not talking a custom budget here, maybe £1.5k max, ideally less. Thinking of the Condor Fratello, any other suggestions? Cheers

  • Equilibrium looks like it'll do the job .. not light; almost 2kg for frame only.
    Otherwise 900euro-ish Rychtarski of Spirit, Max mix with Columbus Hiver forks.

  • Thanks for this - light enough to be enjoyable to ride I think, but Equilibrium isn't well equipped with useful braze-ons and tabs. Would prefer something with more versatility in this regard - i.e. actually having mudguard and rack mounts... Rychtarski is an interesting idea, but I think my dad is probably too traditional and will want to be able to go and try the frame out before buying...

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