Electronic & Hydraulic Shifting (Di2, Ui2, customisations)

Single speed, are you fucking mad?

Wrong forum. Sorry

Whatever gripes people have with the coin batteries, wireless is definitely the way forward. Wired shifting will go the way of wired powermeters and become obselete in a few years

As someone who has owned both wired and wireless SRM's my input on that is the wired one was significantly more reliable.

So, not that many people are actually riding stuff below the UCI limit.
If you did the same survey re: road discs you'd find similar (for now).

Junction boxes can be hidden (seat tube or in stem like TriRig), so can all the wires except maybe the rear derailler one but even that can just be run along the hanger if you want and it's still smaller than a gear cable.

Charging anything on bikes sucks. Having to charge my shifters mid-ride though is taking the piss.

There aren't many weight weenies on this forum. Probably because of all the abuse you gave Dammit back in the super6 days.

Wired powermeters are still in use. I know some trackies that prefer wired SRM because the wireless units drop data points.

The junction box is only for TT use. If you look at the latest TT bikes. They come with enough storage for dozen pies and a cars gearbox. I was amazed another new argon 18 this morning. Practically an aero tourer. Long distance TT 'rs are greedy (not looking at anyone.....)

So no issue there.

Yeah, but now you don't need to bother will all that troublesome hiding and drilling and routing.

Yeah charging stuff sucks, but the longest rides I'm ever likely to do on a bike with wireless shifting is 200km. I agree that it might not be the best solution for you, but you're a f̶u̶c̶k̶i̶n̶g̶ ̶n̶u̶t̶c̶a̶s̶e̶ statistical outlier.

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Hippy does resemble the entire bell curve it is true

So, that's even bigger than Di2.

all that troublesome hiding and drilling and routing

I ride a Shiv, it's Di2 compatible so there's certainly no drilling and the hiding/routing is done when you do the brakes through their purpose built Di2 cable tunnels. Cable hiding arguments are not going to win me over to spending £2k on a wireless groupset..

Better than everyone, everywhere at everything.

If my replacement Dalsnibba with new style Di2 ports wasn't just about to come out of Matt's jig, I'd probably give Etap a go. Looks pretty interesting. Interesting enough to overcome my first generation doubts.
Prolly best to wait for the second gen though....

Totally want SRAM. But it'll be a couple of years before I even think about switching as I can't a)afford and b) deserve (need to ridebikemore). By then it'll be 3rd gen, so all gravy.

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You can you any part of 6770, 6870 and 9070 together, but your rear mech determines how many gears you can run in the rear. So any setup with a 6770 rear mech is 10 speed and any setup with a 6870 or 9070 rear mech is 11 speed

You don't want it or need it. Di2 works, as well. :)

S'not wireless tho

Wireless just means someone else is all up in your signal...

Forget doping, in the future it'll all be about hacking each other's bikes to get the encryption code, so you can change their gears for them.

Installed my Pro Tharsis stem last night.

Now theres just an inch or so of cable exiting the internal routing of my bars, and into bottom of the stem face. Then a single little loop going from over the rear clamp bolt into the top of my toptube. My 5 port junction A now resides in my stem. The mechs have their own tiny loops coming from the internal routing of the frame of course.

Its incredibly clean. Almost wireless. But, including the initial internal frame cabling, its a shit load more effort.

I have 2 500mm di2 cables to replace my current 350mm cables that go from lever to junction. The idea being to move the junction box from stem to steerer. So I can just pop off the topcap to connect my tri bar shifters. Thenit'll be perfect.