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SSCX riders: track ends vs sliding dropouts vs EBB?

I'm leaning towards sliding dropouts: enough movement for cog sizes 16-19t (don't think a ebb could do this?) and quick easy wheel changes (as compared to track ends).

Are you having something built? Although I've not used sliding drops or an ebb, I agree with your logic.

Thinking about it, a little late for this season though.

Are you actually going to race it? Or is it going to do other stuff as well?

• Sliding is much heavier, but easy wheel change. You will have loosen and tighten 4bolts to change gear.

• Track ends are the lightest, easy enough to change wheel but slower than vertical dropouts. Also 4 bolts to change gear. Two on hub (unless QR) and two on brake caliper. Works shitty with mudguards.

• ebb looks clean, but is heavy and expensive. Plus I would want bsa.

My next frame would probably be a sscx specific frame with cococino cocomoto style dropouts instead of sliding

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-84ecVr5TpSw/VHIPUAsWlxI/AAAAAAAAQRY/Tn4x3ngFtIQ/s1600/IMG_6325.JPG

You could get it with heaths gear hanger. If canti same applies I believe. Track ends because of less weight

Sliding dropouts and EBBs are mostly to accommodate disc brakes (EBBs also being an option for BB30/PF30 SS conversions.) Sliding dropouts also open up the option for 142x12 rear ends.

I'll always love track ends; they're beautiful simple functionally and aesthetically.

Disc or canti? WIth disc i truly hate track ends, so slider for those. For cantis i'd go with track or slider. Screw ebb

It'll be built as an out and out race bike. No mounts, no bottles bosses and cantilevers.

I'm leaning towards sliding dropouts. It'll give me the ability to switch to 1x10 with a change of slider too. How much extra should I expect a frame to weigh, in total, over track ends?

I wouldn't worry about the weight of whichever rear end you go for, after half a lap it's gonna have a tonne of clag to slow you down anyway. Unless you live somewhere dry n dusty?

Cross isn't the place for weight weenies.

If you're doing rim brakes, I'd urge you to go with track ends and commit to this being a SS race bike. Sliders and EBBS are overly complex for rim brake cross bikes and just provide more opportunity for mechanical failure. Alternatively; commit to it being a geared frame with vertical dropouts and build an ENO wheel for running SS.

Also put a set of water bottle bosses on it and be done with it; otherwise you'll regret pigeonholing yourself when the day inevitably comes that you want to take your beloved race bike on a longer ride and you're stuck with camel pack or a bottle in your jersey pocket.

If there is one place where weight matters it is Cx. Of course depending on your level and overall goals.

and the road bike gets 1kg lighter at the end of the race, where as the CX bike easily weighs ½ kg extra from collecting mud etc.

http://www.henryjames.com/henry-james-laser-cut-dropouts.html

@josh you should get some of these conversion dropouts maybe

Well, at least it's down to horizontal dropouts or sliding.

Out of interest does anyone produce a forward facing single speed specific dropout? I suppose it'd be easy enough to cut the hanger from a long horizontal dropout if not. That'd make for quicker wheel changes.

Maybe get alu sliders and it will be light enough for you. I am getting some paragon for my bike as soon as Ceeway stocks them again

Nice!!!!

If you want to be sure you won't regret cutting the hanger off, don't cut it off. If you see what I mean?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Surly-Cross-Check-Dropouts-Touring-Framebuilding-Long-Horizontal-Road-/252048221287?hash=item3aaf3ea467

Horizontal drop out make it easier to move pads up and down, whether track end limit how far the pads can go to reach the rims.

Depend on brakes as well.

Don't change wheels, change bikes.

If there is one place where weight matters it is Cx.

I feel like we need to invent a new word to express the falseness of this broad statement...

That sad fighting about it won't solve anything so to each his own.

But the quote derives straight from a former CX national champ in the middle of last decade! :D

I do not wish to fight either. Will you explain to me why you think bicycle weight doesn't matter in cyclocross?

Any info?

built by a german guy who did it with his own hands