Functional bikes. Not Porn not Anti

Depends if they've built the wall up enough.

Well mavic think they have, not sure why you'd doubt them.

Plus they'd not just squeal they'd barely work.

People ride painted rims (Archetypes for instance) and die only of natural causes. Did Mongoose use thick gloss enamel or something?

Do you not remember the Mongoose single speeds where they painted the rims.

And all the cheap MTB whose rims was painted black because it look cool.

They squeal and grind but eventually braking surface start to show.

Bit silly to go through this fuss just to gain that all-black appearance.

I'm not doubting anything.

Mavic built a rim for disc brakes. They've possibly not built it with any regard to a set of brakes wearing away at that part of the rim (as they might do with a rim designed for rim brakes) which will of course effect its strength.

Although by the looks of things its overbuilt (as I said) so will be fine.

They've possibly not built it with any regard to a set of brakes

They built it with total regard for rim braking I think, then updated the marketing blurb over time as people wanted disc rims. I don't think the rim has changed - they just printed a new sticker with 'disc' on it.

Mavic EX721 26" MTB Rim. Extreme Mountain rim for sidewall rim braking Maxtal alloy is 30% stronger than 6061 without any extra weight SUP rim has a stronger arc-welded joint which is then milled to form an invisible join - eliminating juddering when braking Schrader drilled - but supplied with a rubber grommet for use with Presta valves if required Black anodised finish Weight: 590 grams

Rawland Stag (more here: https://flic.kr/s/aHski6no2F ). I am pretty sure we are about to see Rawland introduce a new low trail disc frame with tolerances for 650b-700c wheels. Assume smaller sizes will be 26" which would continue the recent Rawland trend. This will put them in direct competition with the Elephant NFE and could start a trend among some of the niche builders. Velo Orange also look like they are about to release a disc build too (as pointed out previously here).

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I´m really looking forward to the Ravn. Pre-order is already up I think. Built to take the new Compass Rat Trap Pass 26" 55mm tyres with mudguards. Low trail, thru axle, optional front rack. Sounds pretty awesome to me. Found this picture, not sure if it is the Ravn or a different Rawland prototype:

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Pretty nice Raleigh Portage being sold on CTC:

http://forum.ctc.org.uk/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=99530&sid=6bba3d3d87b50e81a4d06ab7a48e4ac4

It says Ravn on the top tube

I think that was being sold on'ere previously.

ah-I didn't see it.

Surprised it didn't sell considering the groupset and all the 650b lust going on these days!

Doing everything the same as somebody else isn't what this thread is about. Are you lost?

These look great. I put my name on the mailing list ages ago but have never heard anything since.

Thanks for that!

cheers, hope you can find more info

Yeah me too... Rawland do have a loyal band of followers who will buy regardless but they is a tendency for things to disappear, get last minute changes or for complete silence for months after putting down a pre-order payment... From what I understand Sean from rawland always pulls through in the end.

I was advised not to put down a payment for the Ravn Pre-order as despite the website asking for orders the design was not finalized... Last I heard was a couple of months ago.

It looks like there's a few of this sort of thing coming along over the next year. I'm awaiting an Elephant NFE and am looking to build something similar for my wife next year, preferably 26" wheeled version.

Cafe bar CX city cruisers are zen as fuck. SS it and you have utter perfection.

Don't be daft.

Anyone know a good and cheap source for Grand Bois 650 x 42 extra light tyres?

650B Grand Bois on the cheap

I literally laughed out loud.

buy my wheelset?

Ok.... rephrase, cheapest.....or I'd consider an alternative!

Schwalbe has some nice options in 40mm and 44mm.