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Not in London at the moment. In my (current) neck of the woods I've noticed that second hand carbon road bikes take a huge mark down if they are pre 2010 models.
So looking at the frames (as opposed to the whole bike with group set) – how do carbon frames from the late 2000's compare to today's frames? My various internet searches on Look, Felt and Scott frames suggest that weight hasn't come down much in the last 5-8 years.
#howlongisapieceofstring