Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

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  • It looks like an older Dawes 50/60's vintage, or an entry level Claude. How far apart are holes The badge (in mm)? Nice legless construction.

  • Lugless!


  • Man at the bike shop was unable to identify the cranks so as to replace the crank bolt and the previous owner is annoyingly not responding so I thought i'd ask for advice here

  • @ColnagoDaft the holes are spaced 29mm apart

  • Then it's probably a Dawes. I had once with yellow and black paint, 531 main tubes. It's an okay quality frame, the seat stay caps would have been painted a leaf design - common vintage Dawes feature.

  • Thanks very much for your help, I'll get on with the restoration then.

  • 1960's Dawes


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  • Thanks! Do you have any idea of the model? I'm unable to find a serial number anywhere on the frame

  • I'm just about 100% certain it's a Dawes Red Feather lugless.

  • Same as this:


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  • Mine's was like this, but yellow and black.

  • Awesome, thanks again for your help

  • You'd be looking at H Lloyd decals for a proper period set. It's too old for the ones available on eBay, which only go back to early 70's. He'll sort you out with a period 531 main tubes decal too.

  • I think it's Campag but does anyone know what group this is - specifically the brakes/shifters:

    http://www.lfgss.com/comments/12226157/

    Belongs to @meconium but didn't want to dredge the 4-month old post.

  • Shifters look like 1ste gen Rec. ergo's.

  • Need to educate me on Campag stuff. I saw some nice bits on a bike at the lights last night. All I know is they said 9-SPEED on the front of the shifters and looked nice.

    Record is good. Veloce is the worst. It's more expensive than Shimano...er...looks nice.

  • The Campag line-up isn't consistent: they have introduced, dropped and sometimes re-introduced the same group over the last thirty-odd years, which has changed the standing of groups within the range: Croce D'Aune, Avanti, Stratos, Xenon, Athena and Super Record have all come and gone (and sometimes come back).

    #Protip: stick to 1995 and later as the components all have the name of the groupset on them. Trying to ID C-Record era parts is a Sisyphean task: there's far more C-Record eBay than ever came out of Vincenza...

  • You seem to know a fair bit. Is there a reliable post-95 timeline online with pictures etc?

  • PM me your e-mail address: I haz spreadsheet, natch.

  • I think that's some lazy advice to be honest, to stick to past 1995 campag bits because they have a name on'm. There were some cross overs of parts between groupsets, sure, but with a little research you'll be able to tell it all apart pretty easily. There's enough reference material out there, yearly Campag catalogues are easily found. Also looking at say a Pinarello catalogue from that era will give you a good idea of what parts should go together. Velobase.com is a pretty reliable source too.

    As for the groupset on the Marcarini, it's a mish mash of components from differing groupsets and even brands (brakes are Mavic). It has cast Aluminium ergopower chassis (shiny finish and less bulky), which indicates they're early versions, 1992 to 1993, before those became a plastic. Looking at the tip of the lever blades, they're pointy and don't have the blunt tip typical for the very first (1992) Ergopower levers. This puts the levers in 1993. Chorus and Record shared the same ergopower design that year.

    1993 campag catalogue http://www.retrobike.co.uk/gallery2/v/Manufacturer+Archive/Campagnolo+Archive/Campagnolo+Catalogues/1993+Campagnolo+Catalog.pdf.html

  • I'm not sure what you mean by "lazy advice".

    Your idea of "a little research" may be poring over low resolution catalogue scans (which were never intended to demonstrate the differences between components), but it's not mine!

    A bike manufacturer's catalogue will show individual components in even less detail.

    Velobase hosts user generated content, ie it's only as good as the people who contribute to it. It can be useful for additional information, but it's certainly not a reliable primary source.

  • Hmmm, well that was a little harshly put yeah. But I really don't think it's hard to find good reference material. That Campag 1993 catalogue I linked is high res and it was easy to find through google. It shows the components very well (from one side but that's usually enough)

    You're right about Velobase, some listings are a little messy, but it's a good start if you're looking for something.

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