Bad traders

Might I add that my dealings with Gruby some months back were smooth sailing. My frame turned up very swiftly and was delivered by a private courier who I believe drove all the way from Poland with it. I'd hazard a guess you'll receive the same treatment but that's just speculation.

Hope you get to the bottom of the issue.

If you cancel the dispute he can close his PayPal and disappear, the outstanding dispute means that PayPal will not allow closure of the account and will also hold funds in some circumstances (to cover your claim) been a while since I had this discussion with PayPal but whatever you do, do not cancel that dispute.

Great news. Yeh @TM I thought as much. I'll keep it open and hope the frame turns up when I'm away on holiday...

@Gruby

Frame is here. Its beautiful. Your Paypal has been unlocked, case has been closed. DPD apologised to me in an email as their records were incorrect due to whats going on at Calais. Many thanks dude. Pleasure doing business.

Are you going to apologise to @Gruby now then?

pic? :D

Its already been done yes. If a courrier company is telling me that they haven't received a package, both by email and on the phone, what can one do, only assume that the seller hasn't sent it. however he has and the condition is great. I am just glad it has all been resolved

You're completely in the right to have responded like this.

I had similar from a seller in France and you can't just take people at their word if you've never even met them.

Couriers make mistakes, but sellers being flakey about tracking info then asking you to cancel paypal disputes before you get what you paid for aint normal or good practice either.

Glad it is all resolved and my namesake is in the clear.

Delivery is the seller's responsibility.

To be fair dpd have had issues. He boxed it amazingly and the frame is in amazing nick.

good traders thread >>>>

DPD thread >>>>

He sold me a Nitto 125AA 380mm bar, arrived bent and he has since ignored me. I stupidly opted to pay by personal paypal transfer, thinking that because he'd been on here so long and hadn't seen any negative feedback.

Who did?

@Gruby presumably

can Velocio pls ban Gruby to stop him bringing my unimpeachable forum name into disrepute by proxy? It's bad enough having that Jared cunt papping folks without some Delboy Trotter joining in on the pseudonymical alias pumping.

Should have got a patent. You worked hard for that IP.

And I just recognise you as uber. Plus Gruber and gruby don't sound too similar, unless all those accents change it to gruby.

The bar wasnt bent when I sent it to you. It was almost new with stickers on, and you payed me less then a half normal price. Im really sorry that you found the bar 3mm bent but I cannot take responibility for it. Whatever happened to it must have happend during transport. The package material was also decent but cupboard box could be also crushed... im just presuming.
And also if you look at my ads I always inform about bents, dents or any other imperfections.

I cannot take responsibility for it

It is very much your responsibility to ensure items arrive in the condition they are sold as.

Unfortunate as it is, the responsibility for shape shipping lies with the seller.

The bar was sent in orginal box, what else do you expect? Would you put it in the wooden box or what? If im sending something in the condition which i indicate on my ad why shoul I believe that its different. @Bump_City sent me very first message saying that eveything is fine and than after a while he was claiming that something was wrong..

Did you add anything else to the contents to make the box less crushable?

Can you stop insulting me. Me and my nickname has nothing to do with you and hepefully it will stay this way. The only person who should be banned is you for your abusive behavior and accusations based on nothing.

It was packed in the original box and sent the same way it arrived from the shop.

what else do you expect?

I'd expect to received the goods in the condition I purchased them in. Even if you packed it well and the courier mishandled it, you're the one with the contract with the courier therefore it is up to you to sort.