• The Oval lane is a perfect demonstration of why I kept arguing about 'infrastructure' solutions in this thread. What a total dog's breakfast.

  • Lack of education and stricter laws for drivers and cyclists is not an excuse for segregation, if money was spent on integrating and educating road users we wouldn't be having this conversation and cycling wouldn't be seen as such a negative mode of transport.

    If money was put in the right place more people would be taking cycling up and it would be brilliant. Unfortunately because most of us are just going about our business day to day, integrating and being a part of traffic we don't have a voice, we are not complaining.

    The people that are being heard are the people that are using poor education as an excuse for segregation, lining developers pockets who clearly don't actually give a shit about cyclists when you see the end result of these "improvements".

    Now we're having this conversation on the internet about infrastructure that is meant to promote cycling and instead we are all talking about how dangerous it is.

    What a misguided waste of time and money.

  • Just an observation, and in no way expressing support for or against segregation, but there isn't currently any mechanism or mandate to educate existing drivers. If you begin now on educating new drivers then it'll be 30-40 years before they achieve a behavioural critical mass that affects the whole of the driving populace. Just waiting for bad drivers to die off isn't a good policy. What are you proposing for the education of existing drivers that is better than that?

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